NOTE: Below are prophecies and visions relating to events in Florida. Put together, they certainly command our attention. -Andrew Strom (Moderator). *********************************** (1) ROBERT HOLMES (-StormHarvest Ministries): Back in 1998, Robert Holmes was speaking at a church camp in Florida (Fort Lauderdale). During those meetings he prophesied that the Lord would "Send hurricanes against the fort in Florida and there shall be a fire unprecedented in the earth as a sign". Just what "The Fort" meant, we were not sure. Florida has 9 coastal forts and 6 interior forts, as well as three cities with fort in their names. During those meetings, God once again came and said "The Fort is sedative" and several scriptures came to mind: - Ezekiel 13:14 in which Ezekiel speaks of the complacency of the people in Israel. Believing they had protection, had built a wall and painted it, but he would send a storm and blow it down, spending his wrath against her "self protection" and isolation. It particularly speaks to the sleeping church, whose "prophets" have spoken peace, peace when there is no peace. Secondly Matthew 3:12 came to mind in which John the Baptist depicts Jesus' ministry, with a winnowing fork in his hand, cleansing the threshing floor, gathering the wheat into the barn and burning the remainder with fire. So we definitely felt that issues of refinement and cleansing judgements would be seen in Florida. Such a thought was almost alien to our friends in the USA. That God would even think to judge America, that he might, in his mercy, bring wrath. In fact at the time several leaders denounced the prophecy as false. We watched with interest from Australia as the last elections played out and were finally won (and lost) in Florida. Then this week, we saw with amazement the news of the Florida hurricanes. The four hurricanes that have struck Florida this season matched the most to hit a single state since 1886, when Texas was battered four times. According to Newark, California-based Risk Management Solutions the storms have caused 25 billion dollars in combined damage and left at least 70 dead in Florida alone. According to Associated Press on Sunday Sept 26: - Charley came ashore Aug. 13 with 145-mph winds at Charlotte Harbour, causing severe damage in southwest and central Florida. - Frances hit Labour Day weekend with 105-mph winds on the Atlantic coast near Stuart, stripping roofs, smashing boats and damaging the Kennedy Space Centre (Martin County) just north of the Tri Country area. - Ivan raked the western Florida Panhandle on Sept. 16 after landing on the Alabama coast with 130-mph winds. - Jeanne made landfall late Aug. 25th, near Stuart, with 120-mph winds. The National Weather Bureau noted that many of the historic buildings, fortresses and places of interest have been damaged, affecting tourism, business and travel. "Let us pray!" [-Source: mario@... ] _____________________________ (2) A "HIT" of DISCIPLINE - Rick Churder's Vision: MODERATOR WRITES: Not long after we moved to Kansas City earlier this year, I met a local prophet named Rick Churder. He had been given a vision in January 2004 which he did not understand at the time - and still has questions as to it's exact meaning. Here is Rick's written version of what he saw: The HAND using FLORIDA to "Discipline": "Sometime around the middle to latter part of January, 2004, I was shown a vision of the United States. This view of the nation was from a position well above the surface of the earth, out over the Gulf of Mexico, and southwest of the state of Florida. Shortly after this vision began, I watched as an arm stretched down to the earth from behind me and off to my right. The state of Florida was grasped by the hand at the end of this arm. Florida was swiftly lifted up from the earth while pulling the rest of the United States up after it. It was as though the state of Florida served as a handle, or grip for the purpose of lifting up the rest of the nation. As swiftly as Florida and the rest of the nation was lifted up, it was slammed back down in it's original position, with the rest of the nation following suit. It was a scene not unlike watching a rug being shaken out or "the board of education being applied to the seat of knowledge," if you will. As the rest of the nation came slamming back into it's original position, I watched as shockwaves quickly traveled out from a point in the central part of the nation. As I looked at these waves rolling through the land in all directions, I recognized that they were emanating from what appeared to be the Kansas City area. I watched as the shockwaves reached the borders of the land, and like waves in a pool hitting the walls of the pool, they began rebounding back toward the point of origin. Once these waves reached their point of origin, the vision ended." MODERATOR AGAIN: Forgetting about the 'Kansas City' section of this vision, I feel it is very important to grasp the fact that God is clearly using events in Florida to bring a kind of "discipline" or "limited judgement" to the USA. Just as a wayward child may be spanked to give correction, it appears that a very hard impact was needed to bring something home to the nation. But will this message be heeded? I find it interesting that when Robert Holmes first spoke of this kind of thing in Florida in 1998, his word was rejected and even decried as "false", because many American Christians find it hard to believe that God would bring these kinds of judgements upon the USA. These people are clearly deluded. The very fact that these things are now happening show how serious the spiritual decline in America has become. Until such Christians wake up to what God is trying to tell them, it is likely that such judgements will just keep coming - getting more and more severe until this "disciplining" has the desired effect, and the people REPENT. Another aspect that comes into this: The central Florida region where these hurricanes did their worst damage is home to some of the largest and most luxurious churches in the nation, as well as many wealthy retired Christians. It is also home to Disneyworld. A significant correlation? Remember, God's prophetic word to today's "lukewarm" church is very simple. Jesus Himself spoke this to the Laodiceans: "Those whom I love I rebuke and DISCIPLINE. So be earnest, and REPENT." (Rev 3:19, NIV). Any prophet who is not preaching what JESUS PREACHED to the lukewarm church surely cannot be bringing the word of the Lord today. The King James puts it like this: "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore and REPENT." From all of the above I can only conclude that this "chastening" from God is now well underway. Are you listening, America? God bless you all, -Andrew Strom.