In a message dated 5/9/00 2:55:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, klausm@... writes: << Then it continues in Acts : and no one suffered need. If anyone thinks that was for then , let me say: I do not believe that the Holy Spirit changed directions , He is the same yesterday, today and into all Eternity. And He also did not say : Give 10 % or 50 or 99% , they gave all they possesed and NO one called anything their own. And this practical unity then continued into the spiritual unity we are so desperately seeking today, but the spiritual and the practical have to go together and can not be separated. The separation between practical and spiritual is another one of the curses that weighs us down toda >> Klaus, Well said. Prior to Vatican 2, church history books referred to the declaration of Christianity as the religion of the empire, as the Triumph of Christianity. We now know that this began the decline of Christianity. At this time the clerical class developed and the Laos or people were relegated to lower status. Clerical offices were associated with money and celibacy became popular, not so much for spiritual reasons as Paul practiced, but so that the possessions of the clerical office would not be passed on to family but to the monarchical church. Nevertheless God always made sure that the message of Jesus Crucified was available for those who sought it and fortunately down through the ages we have many great martyrs and witnesses to the faith. Today the effort is to put Christianity back into Christendom. We do not need more people so much as more Christians. We probably need less people in the churches but more practicing Christians. Peace Bill