Many comments well stated. Like I said, even though I know of no credible argument that D&D should be banned for anyone, including Christians, I don't recommend it to Christians. I instead recommend DRaid. I also recommend Redemption over Magic the Gathering. I prefer Christian music over secular and Christian novels over secular. Unfortunately, there isn't enough to satisfy me out there or anyone else for long. And why? Perhaps much of the blame can be laid at the feet of those who perpetrate Christian fraud and the those who have abandoned culture and reason to the devil. DragonRaid was essentially stillborn because of two things: the whipped up paranoia about D&D and the lies perpetrated by a small "Christian" research group. If I am angry, I am angry at this... If Christians can't be trusted with the truth, if Christians remain as gullible today as they have in the past, then we will continue to harm the cause of Christ and play into the hands of Satan. This isn't a matter of God using what the wise think foolish to make fools of the wise, it's a matter of making the followers of Christ look like liars or ignorant fools who cannot divide between truth and disception. The result is unbelievers who reject the Christian and the Message out of hand. It makes Christ's message look as if only gullible fools follow that religion. It leads souls into hell. When I see stories posted here that are presented as if they actually happened, it is easy for me to be skeptical. The reason I'm skeptical is because over the years nearly every one of the stories that could be traced have turned out to be false. I did not become a Christian to build off fakery. If I am angry, I am angry because of this. DRaid is one of the wonderful exceptions that barely managed to survive annihilation by other Christians. Unfortunately, the enemy is our brother and sister in these matters. If I am angry it is because we are our own worst enemy. While we devour ourselves, the lion roars and eats up our young and the lost see reason to reject the Truth. By falling to lies and deception we simply lay out stumbling blocks for ourselves and those who don't yet know Christ. So, I guess I am indeed angry. Is it a sinful anger or one that is spiritually justified? I'll not say because I don't know that my motives could ever be that pure. However, none of this is directed at anyone in particular on this list. If you feel it is, then I appologize of any offense it may have caused you. But I cannot appologize for the way I feel for this is where God has led me to over the last three decades. I hope you can find some value in it as I have found value in the many good and thoughtful posts this list has generated. Eric