Ever since the first discussion about the beginnings of DCs I've been searching the Bible from cover to cover trying to see what God said about any people who couldn't get saved if such people existed. I *did* find some passages that might apply... "What happened was this: People knew God perfectly well, but when they didn't treat him like God, refusing to worship Him, they trivialized themselves into silliness and confusion so that there was neither sense nor direction left in their lives. They pretended to know it all, but were illiterate regarding life. They traded the glory of God...for cheap figurines you can buy at any roadside stand. So God said, in effect, "If that's what you want, that's what you get." It wasn't long before they were living in a pigpen...filthy inside and out. Since they didn't bother to acknowledge God, God quit bothering them and let them run loose. And then all hell broke loose: rampant evil, grapping and grasping, vicious backstabbing....They know perfectly well they're spitting in God's face. And they don't care--worse, they hand out prizes to those who do the worst things best!" --Romans 1.21-24, 28-29a, 32 The Message (In case you don't know, The Message is a contemporary language version of the entire New Testament and Wisdom Books of the Old Testament translated from the original Hebrew and Greek by Eugene Peterson) So since the people once knew God and ended up become wicked, the same thing could happen for nonRedeemed on the other planets around EdenAgain as well on EA itself. Since if a person chooses to reject God, He will harden the person's heart (remember Pharaoh and Moses?) it may be possible for a nonChristian to harden their heart so much that God's mercy is totally "used up" and He will give up on him. (Like giving up a person's free will.) It happened when Paul described it in Romans and happens today. It will happen in the endtimes to a greater degree for those who recieve the mark of the Antichrist: "A third Angel followed, shouting, warning, "If anyone worships the Beast and its image and takes the mark on the forehead or hand, that person will drink the wine of God's wrath, prepared unmixed in his chalice of anger, and suffer torment from fire and brimstone in the presence of Holy Angels, in the presence of the Lamb...No respite from those who worship the Beast and its image, who take the mark of its name." --Revelation 14.9-10,11b The Message So how come it couldn't happen on a larger scale in the "fantasy" world of DR? Can someone give some input? This could provide at least a temporary solution.