Gordon+ offers a good defense of males-only as priests and bishops. I don't remember the scriptural reference regarding women being ordained deaconesses -- assume it is there somewhere that does not require an extreme stretch in interpretation. Then the campaign against pedophilia in the RC priesthood rears its head again & the whole defense is lost. The facts have been documented again and again. Denying them has not made them go away thus far and will not, if the denials are simply repeated. Let's see one court decision disproven, or accept the well documented facts as facts. Convince me that any kind of bishop enjoys giving money to attorneys. Denying the RC problem with pedophilia makes as much sense as denying homosexuality in ECUSA. To deny either is to play the fool. Rome is not cursed with denial, just with ignorance of the difference between lust for persons of one's own sex and lust for small children. Ignorance makes the solution of either problem difficult, but Rome is really trying. Boston's RC++Law did not understand and the Vatican still seems unaware of the vast difference. Homosexual sinners can be helped, can repent their sin, and they can live normal lives. Pedophiles, even if they are priests, can only be kept away from children. Denial does not make solution difficult, it makes it impossible. If someone has seen a pedophile who has been helped, I would like to see the documentation. In my years in practice, I did not see one, never heard of one, & never read of one in the literature. (We are not talking about two young kids experimenting. We are talking about an adult male OR FEMALE sexually abusing a child of either sex.) As with Addiction Disease, denial is not a river in Egypt. It is a killer. It is difficult to understand why Anglican clergy blindly defend brother priests in another jurisdiction (just because they are brother priests) when we have problems of our own (that we all know something about) that need to be addressed. OTOH, I can understand RC hierarchy attempting to sweep this under the rug. In fact, trying to ignore it, they swept until the rug got way too lumpy and the courts started sweeping the other direction. Too bad the courts have never looked at RC infallibility! There is no worthwhile fee related to "ex cathedra" to motivate attorneys. There is a worthwhile fee with innocent children whose lives have been and are being destroyed without the relief of death, by men who were supposed to pray with them, not prey on them. That RC priests have preyed on kids is fact-not fanciful hope. It's time to pray for them & to force them into treatment with mental health professionals who know what they are doing, who know what they are talking about, and are not just piously hoping. Will+