Fr Mike: I'm only a lowly deacon, so you can address me as Mark. I have no problem w/Fr X (in fact, I prefer it) for priests. As far as I can tell, the straw that broke the camel's back concerning breaking w/PECUS was the requirement that one must be ordained in apostolic succession to serve the Eucharist. Bishop Cummins was castigated specifically for participating in a Eucharist w/presbyterians. In the REC we specifically require all our clergy to vow that no ordained person is a priest in any way different than any layman. We do not reordain even Baptists that become REC clergy. The clergyman is an elder, not a sacerdotal priest. Since high ritual was tied w/apostolic succession, we rejected a lot of things came w/apostolic succession. However, we take no such vow, nor was it required even at the beginning, that we reject high church ritual. Therefore, we are allowed to change ritual, which we have done to a certain extent. The 4 Declaration of Principles, one of which contains the part about the priest, areunchangeable. mw > Mark+ (or you prefer Fr Mark?) > > But again, aren't those things exactly what the REC was originally formed in > opposition to? I guess my point is to ask this question: since the REC > seems to have moved a bit (some would say quite a bit), is there now room in > the house for both Evangelicals and Anglo-Catholics? And I mean real > Anglo-Catholics, not crypto-Romanists. > > MLW+ > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark.mary@... [mailto:mark.mary@...] > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:31 PM > To: faithandlife@... > Subject: RE: [FaithandLife] Anglo Catholics and Evangelicals in the new > Church RSVP 2 > > Fr Mike: > > Not taking you as contentious. This is the kind of conversation that needs > to occur between the APA and REC, rather than some bland plattitudes. > > As far as my high churchmanship goes, I'm quite flexible. I can live in a > low or high chuch environment, even tho I prefer high (given the right > doctrine). I was in a smells and bells CEC parish (nose-bleed high. Left > bec of doctinal differences.) and now am in a quite lower REC parish. We > have no smells or bells. No one genuflects; few cross themselves. However, > when I attend Synod, I get to do all those things. > > mw > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: faithandlife-unsubscribe@... >