[faithandlife] RE: [FaithandLife] Anglo Catholics and Evangelicals in the new Church RSVP 2

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From: mark.mary@...
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:47:29 +0000
Fr Mike:

Not that I've heard.  My rector was a former Baptist, then Bible church pastor.  He was not re-ordained when he came into the REC.  We do sometimes regularize the ordination from non-liturgical communions, but AFAIK that is specifically not considered a re-ordintaion.  At our church just recently we had a guest, a Baptist, come and preach.  At the Eucharist, he participated seemlessly w/our two REC presbyters, praying over the elements and then distributing them.

mw


> Mark+
> 
> Lowly deacon?  Even the Archbishop of Canterbury is still a deacon.  :)
> 
> I thought all the incoming clergy are now re-ordained.  That's not correct?
> 
> MLW+
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mark.mary@... [mailto:mark.mary@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 4:14 PM
> To: faithandlife@...
> Subject: RE: [FaithandLife] Anglo Catholics and Evangelicals in the new
> Church RSVP 2
> 
> Fr Mike:
> 
> I'm only a lowly deacon, so you can address me as Mark.  I have no problem
> w/Fr X (in fact, I prefer it) for priests.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the straw that broke the camel's back concerning
> breaking w/PECUS was the requirement that one must be ordained in apostolic
> succession to serve the Eucharist.  Bishop Cummins was castigated
> specifically for participating in a Eucharist w/presbyterians.  In the REC
> we specifically require all our clergy to vow that no ordained person is a
> priest in any way different than any layman.  We do not reordain even
> Baptists that become REC clergy.  The clergyman is an elder, not a
> sacerdotal priest.  Since high ritual was tied w/apostolic succession, we
> rejected a lot of things came w/apostolic succession.   However, we take no
> such vow, nor was it required even at the beginning, that we reject high
> church ritual.  Therefore, we are allowed to change ritual, which we have
> done to a certain extent.  The 4 Declaration of Principles, one of which
> contains the part about the priest, areunchangeable.
> 
> mw
> 
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> 
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