I take at their word or deed two eminent theologians:

1.  Joseph Ratzinger, whose writings I have found very helpful and 
illuminative of orthodoxy, as Benedict XVI must believe in the 
Immaculate Conception, the infallibility and universal jurisdiction of 
the bishop of Rome, Purgatory and Transubstantiation.  Therefore he must 
considered not orthodox.  Perhaps I should not consider him trustworthy 
on on the dogmas of the Trinity or the Incarnation?

2.  Geoffrey Wainwright, eminent theologian, as a Methodist must be 
understood not to believe in the necessity of apostolic succession to 
Holy Orders and rightful sacraments.  Otherwise he would be clearly 
identified with a church in apostolic succession. And he remains 
associated with a church, and does work with the World Council of 
Churches, both straying from historical orthodoxy.  I must consider him 
not to be orthodox.  What will it take for him to break with heretical 
and apostate Protestantism?  Should I read his books?

LEA+

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Lawrence Adams
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GMSpencer@... wrote:

>In a message dated 1/31/06 4:37:32 PM, lea2n@... writes:
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>>I am inclined to make an equally rash declaration in
>>response about the orthodoxy of those who pray the rosary, since I have
>>my doubts about that, and say those who hold such views couldn't
>>possibly teach me anything about the faith.  But I hope we would have
>>the ability to discuss the merits of each others'  views and learn,
>>rather than dismiss each other from the table.
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>Well, maybe they can't. But the issues are different one and the declaration 
>is not rash. Bishop Allison is a bishop who has been rightly admired by many 
>people for his service to the Church. But the issue of ordination is central to 
>the life of the Church - the right administration of the sacraments, teaching 
>and ordering parish life, just to name a few. It is destructive to ordain 
>women to the priesthood and he is simply unorthodox on that point. No one is 
>being dismissed. I'm taking him at his word. And his word is wrong. 
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