Michael+ Thank you. I agree. The "then what" question put by Radner cannot be answered in this time by leaders in either New York or London. It can only be answered person by person and community by community touched by the Holy Spirit as you said, "So I think the idea of transformation leading to sacramental union is very much in keeping with the witness of Holy Scripture." I was recently asked to lead a group of Christians from a variety of backgrounds who were seeking a deeper walk with their Lord as well as a sense of fufilling a mission. These were all baptized Christians so I began by calling on our common heritage and understandings. We began together by learning the prayerbook offices and studying the Gospel of John. In the weeks of instruction explaining, I never once had to criticize the efforts of other Christian groups. After a few weeks, one of the people described how just kneeling in prayer had helped his spiritual life. Now he is looking forward to Confirmation and Holy Communion, expecting to meet Someone there. Charles+ Church of the Good Shepherd, Indianapolis > --- Michael Ward <mward@...> wrote: > Charles+ > > If anyone is interested, this is from another > list-serve: a discussion of > theosis, etc. with Lelan Harris of Bethel Seminary. > > MLW+ > ========================= > <snip>