[faithandlife] RE: [FaithandLife] AMIA and WOMENS ROLES

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From: "Michael Ward" <mward@...>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:37:58 -0400
Female acolytes and lectors?  You're a downright liberal!!

MLW+

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From: cranmer@... [mailto:cranmer@...] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:29 PM
To: faithandlife@...
Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] AMIA and WOMENS ROLES

My only restriction is the Altar and the Pulpit (to do anything more is to
demean the priesthood i.m.h.o.) - I have female acolytes, lectors (not Lay
Readers, mind you) and choir members...the women at St. George serve in many
areas including the Altar Guild (which we treat as most important - we even
have a special service at which time certain vows are taken), a very vibrant
women's Bible Study, Sunday School instruction, instruction at Retreats (for
instance a woman who has a doctorate will be teaching at our upcoming
Spiritual Gifts restreat) etc.  I also counsel together with my Deaconess if
it is a a woman or a married couple I am counselling (I NEVER counsel alone
anymore) and she also counsels women.  There are other areas such as the
library, office, nursery, kitchen, building and grounds, missions,
communications and publicity, all of which are not exclusively from either
sex...

J.+

> 
> From: charles scott <crscottblu@...>
> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 01:22:39 EDT
> To: faithandlife@...
> Subject: [FaithandLife]  AMIA and WOMENS ROLES
> 
> Fr. David+
> 
> Good to hear from you.  I was afraid you might have
> been smothered by the avalanche of email that started
> with your question last week.  
> 
> I'm not aware of any arrangements with AMIA. 
> 
> Now that you've brought up women's roles, I had to
> face that challenge again at Good Shepherd.  A person
> (male) who occasionally attends wrote to me and some
> other members about our chauvinist attitudes and
> argued we should allow women to be ordained.  
> 
> This forced me into a position being clear in two
> regards:  why the male priesthood and how women can
> participate in the priesthood referred to in the NT. 
> The title of the article was, "Jesus is No
> Chauvinist."
> 
> Thanks to Fr Johann and the rest of you who have
> written eloquently on this subject the last 5 years, I
> had some material at hand to draw from in regard to
> male priesthood.  We know well what women may not do
> and our people know as well.
> 
> However, there is little to glean in our archives
> regarding what women may do.  Frankly, I'm chagrined
> about how women have been discouraged from doing much
> besides the altar and charity at Good Shepherd.  A 20+
> year tradition of not encouraging female leadership
> has limited the church.
> 
> I was singed by some flame throwers when I commented
> here on I Cor 14:34 a few years ago; my hair is still
> a bit thin.
> 
> Anyone having an asbestos suit care to exercise
> careful exegesis and  comment on how women may fulfill
> their priesthood (I Peter 2:9)?
> 
> Charles+
> Church of the Good Shepherd, Indianapolis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Stlukesangch@... wrote:
> 
> > Dear Brothers, 
> > Can someone update me as to whether or not the AMIA
> > is officially part of the Anglican Federation which
> includes APA and the REC ?  If it is then  does it 
> mean we are in full communion with them ?  What is 
> the position  they have finally arrived at on women in
> the diaconate, or are they still  deciding ?
> >  Thanks, 
> >  
> > David +
> > 
> 
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