That's Father Sweet-pea to you!!!

Ha!!

MLW+

-----Original Message-----
From: cranmer@... [mailto:cranmer@...] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:35 PM
To: faithandlife@...
Subject: Re: RE: [FaithandLife] AMIA and WOMENS ROLES

Thanks Sweet-pea...I was waiting for someone to pounce on me.
> 
> From: "Michael Ward" <mward@...>
> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 03:37:58 EDT
> To: <faithandlife@...>
> Subject: RE: [FaithandLife]  AMIA and WOMENS ROLES
> 
> Female acolytes and lectors?  You're a downright liberal!!
> 
> MLW+
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cranmer@... [mailto:cranmer@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:29 PM
> To: faithandlife@...
> Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] AMIA and WOMENS ROLES
> 
> My only restriction is the Altar and the Pulpit (to do anything more is to
> demean the priesthood i.m.h.o.) - I have female acolytes, lectors (not Lay
> Readers, mind you) and choir members...the women at St. George serve in
many
> areas including the Altar Guild (which we treat as most important - we
even
> have a special service at which time certain vows are taken), a very
vibrant
> women's Bible Study, Sunday School instruction, instruction at Retreats
(for
> instance a woman who has a doctorate will be teaching at our upcoming
> Spiritual Gifts restreat) etc.  I also counsel together with my Deaconess
if
> it is a a woman or a married couple I am counselling (I NEVER counsel
alone
> anymore) and she also counsels women.  There are other areas such as the
> library, office, nursery, kitchen, building and grounds, missions,
> communications and publicity, all of which are not exclusively from either
> sex...
> 
> J.+
> 
> > 
> > From: charles scott <crscottblu@...>
> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 01:22:39 EDT
> > To: faithandlife@...
> > Subject: [FaithandLife]  AMIA and WOMENS ROLES
> > 
> > Fr. David+
> > 
> > Good to hear from you.  I was afraid you might have
> > been smothered by the avalanche of email that started
> > with your question last week.  
> > 
> > I'm not aware of any arrangements with AMIA. 
> > 
> > Now that you've brought up women's roles, I had to
> > face that challenge again at Good Shepherd.  A person
> > (male) who occasionally attends wrote to me and some
> > other members about our chauvinist attitudes and
> > argued we should allow women to be ordained.  
> > 
> > This forced me into a position being clear in two
> > regards:  why the male priesthood and how women can
> > participate in the priesthood referred to in the NT. 
> > The title of the article was, "Jesus is No
> > Chauvinist."
> > 
> > Thanks to Fr Johann and the rest of you who have
> > written eloquently on this subject the last 5 years, I
> > had some material at hand to draw from in regard to
> > male priesthood.  We know well what women may not do
> > and our people know as well.
> > 
> > However, there is little to glean in our archives
> > regarding what women may do.  Frankly, I'm chagrined
> > about how women have been discouraged from doing much
> > besides the altar and charity at Good Shepherd.  A 20+
> > year tradition of not encouraging female leadership
> > has limited the church.
> > 
> > I was singed by some flame throwers when I commented
> > here on I Cor 14:34 a few years ago; my hair is still
> > a bit thin.
> > 
> > Anyone having an asbestos suit care to exercise
> > careful exegesis and  comment on how women may fulfill
> > their priesthood (I Peter 2:9)?
> > 
> > Charles+
> > Church of the Good Shepherd, Indianapolis
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Stlukesangch@... wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Brothers, 
> > > Can someone update me as to whether or not the AMIA
> > > is officially part of the Anglican Federation which
> > includes APA and the REC ?  If it is then  does it 
> > mean we are in full communion with them ?  What is 
> > the position  they have finally arrived at on women in
> > the diaconate, or are they still  deciding ?
> > >  Thanks, 
> > >  
> > > David +
> > > 
> > 
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