[faithandlife] Watertown Whooey

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From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
> Dean Scott: The item about the octogenarian school teacher in upstate
New York has reached even the far reaches of the Great Basin/ High
Desert of Nevada.                                                       
                                                            And it is
all silly polyester and a yard wide.                                    
                                                                        
          Since Baptists do not believe in the Holy Scripture-else they
would not be Baptists/Anabaptists (read what Luther for example had to
say about them!) this act by their leader is pure prejudice. They're ALL
laymen so why the sudden differentiation.                               
                                                                        
    I hope that this poor lady sues them for everything they are worth.
There was a similar case in Oklahoma about 15 years ago when some
Protestant sect threw out a couple for 'adultery'. The sued and won a
fat 5 figure settlement.                                                
                                                               
Blessings. GDVW+





 General Revelation in the city of Watertown
>
> Brothers+
>
> Watertown’s First Baptist Church
>
> http://www.newswatch50.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=85784A1C-7A96-45F3-B35F-D0097390E8B5
>
> The First Baptist Church in Watertown, New York,  came
> to national prominence because it fired an 81 year old
> lady from her role as teacher in Sunday School.  In
> the letter of dismissal on Church stationary the
> Baptist authority  quoted I Timothy 2:11 and 12 as a
> reason.
>
> The new pastor at First Baptist has risen to
> prominence in the community and has won election to a
> seat on city council.  Interestingly,  from a
> political point of view, the chairman of the city
> council is a lady.  When a male citizen of Watertown
> was questioned whether the church’s decision would
> affect the pastor’s political future, the man
> commented to the effect that 500 years ago the action
> would not have been questioned but “in this day and
> time” he finds the pastor’s attitude “disturbing.”
>
> From a theological point of view the case is
> interesting.
>
> For Christians who take Scripture as prime authority,
> the hermeneutical question is pertinent in all ages of
> the church.  Was Paul addressing specific situations
> or laying out a general principle for the whole church
> (I Cor 14:34)?  Be careful of your answer lest you
> bring Scripture into conflict with Scriptures (a
> hermeneutical no-no), and St. Paul in conflict with
> himself.  A certain man in the New Testament had
> daughters who were prophets and note that the same
> Paul who wrote I Timothy 2:11 and 12 also reminisces
> on the “unfeigned faith” in Timothy engendered by his
> grandmother Lois and his mother Eunice (II Timothy
> 1:5) and this was a result of the fact that “from a
> babe thou hast known the sacred writings which are
> able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith
> which is in Christ Jesus.  Every scripture inspired of
> God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for
> correction, for instruction in righteousness.”  (II
> Timothy 3:14-16).   This same Paul in other epistles
> refers to women who prominent in the Church and refers
> to churches in their households.
>
> The conversation on Faith and Life has been
> circumspect in regard to women’s roles, and rightly
> so. Basic hermeneutical principles militate against
> proof-texting.  Obviously it would have been incumbent
> on the Baptist Magisteral Authority to look at least
> to the entirety of both of St Paul’s letters to
> Timothy and the entire Pauline corpus before jumping
> to a conclusion.
>
> The question of the extent of General Revelation in
> the city of Watertown has to be considered.  Has that
> which may be discerned concerning the nature and will
> of God raised to a higher level in the general
> populace than in the understanding of Special
> Revelation given to the teaching authority of the
> First Baptist Church in Watertown?
>
> Church and State questions loom ominously in the
> background.  Could civil suits at present and future
> legal statues concerning discrimination be part of the
> picture?
>
> In the newpaper article linked above, Mrs. Lambert
> indicated she would not contest the firing and
> expressed that she might not leave her church.
> However, in a CNN interview that aired this morning,
> she indicated she would be going to another church and
> continue teaching.  She also commented that it was
> “church politics” that was behind the dismissal.
>
> These and many other questions deserve re-examination.
>  I’m not talking about re-examining qualifications for
> Presbyter, as I do believe that one is settled.  But
> when it comes to other roles. . . . .
>
> Charles+
>
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