> Legitimate Old Catholics (like the OC Churchof British Columbia-85 years old this year) have nothing to do with such nonsense. Most OC's here though are like the Continuum-oops theres another jurisdiction even as I speak. Blessings. GDVW+ I wonder how many other seekers of "true Apostolic succession" will be > lining up at his door. He probably won't starve to death. Regards. X > KnoxDuncan@... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles scott" <crscottblu@...> > To: <faithandlife@...> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:49 PM > Subject: RE: [FaithandLife] Schism! > > >> >> Mike+ >> >> The story would make a soap-opera. It has intrigue >> against constituted authority, peculiar mating >> rituals, political activism, off beat religion and the >> suspense of a high-noon show down. >> >> What will we name it? Sun Myung Moon over Washington? >> Roman Holiday? Old Catholics Never Die, They Just >> Breakaway. >> >> Charles+ >> >> --- Michael Ward <mward@...> wrote: >> >>> This dude has an over-abundance of testosterone! >>> >>> >>> >>> MLW+ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Father Chandler Holder Jones >>> [mailto:fatherchad@...] >>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:21 PM >>> To: jonesstbphl@...; faithandlife@... >>> Subject: [FaithandLife] Schism! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Monday, September 25, 2006 >>> >>> >>> A Liberal Roman Catholic Schism! >>> >>> >>> <http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/> >>> http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Whispers in the Loggia has received definitive >>> confirmation that, at >>> yesterday's ceremony at Washington's Imani Temple >>> (home of the breakaway >>> African-American Catholic Congregation), Archbishop >>> Emmanuel Milingo >>> ordained four prelates of the Old Catholic Church to >>> the indisputably valid >>> Roman episcopate, passing to them his lineage and, >>> with it, the episcopal >>> lineage of Pope Paul VI, who ordained Milingo as >>> archbishop of Lusaka in >>> 1969. An Associated Press story yesterday had caused >>> confusion by referring >>> to the ceremony as an "installation," particularly >>> as the ordinands had >>> previously claimed episcopal orders through other >>> channels. >>> >>> While the Holy See last week raised the specter of >>> "canonical suspension" on >>> the renegade Zambian prelate with a deadline of 15 >>> October, yesterday's >>> action places Milingo under an automatic latae >>> sententiae excommunication >>> reserved to the Holy See under the provisions of >>> canon 1382. In the west, >>> the break is comparable only to the events of June >>> 1988, when the >>> traditionalist Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre ordained >>> four bishops of his own, >>> incurring the excommunication of all involved and >>> creating the great schism >>> of the 20th century. >>> >>> Milingo and his four prelates -- the "Council of >>> Bishops" of the "Married >>> Priests Now!" movement -- are meeting today in >>> Washington to discuss the >>> division of their responsibilities. Expect a >>> statement from the Holy See >>> quickly. >>> _______________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060925/ap_on_re_us/archbishop_marriage_2> >>> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060925/ap_on_re_us/archbishop_marriage_2 >>> >>> An African archbishop who wants to make celibacy >>> optional for priests >>> installed four married men Sunday as Roman Catholic >>> bishops. The Archdiocese >>> of Washington did not recognize the installations. >>> "This means nothing >>> within the church," spokeswoman Susan Gibbs said. >>> Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo - whose marriage to a >>> woman chosen by the Rev. >>> Sun Myung Moon scandalized the Roman Catholic Church >>> - performed the >>> ceremonies at a Capitol Hill church. Installed were >>> the Rev. George Augustus >>> Stallings, Jr., of Washington, Peter Paul Brennan, >>> of New York, Patrick >>> Trujillo, of Newark, N.J., and Joseph Gouthro, of >>> Las Vegas. >>> The four men claim affiliation to the breakaway >>> Synod of Old Catholic >>> Churches. >>> "We are not only validly ordained Catholic bishops, >>> but we are ordained >>> Roman Catholic bishops," Stallings said. Milingo has >>> said that the head of >>> the Vatican Congregation for Bishops has demanded he >>> send a letter of >>> repentance by Oct. 15 to Pope Benedict XVI or face >>> "canonical suspension." >>> The Vatican said Milingo violated church law when he >>> created "the so-called >>> 'Married Priests Now' association," and when he >>> previously celebrated Mass >>> with married clergy. A "canonical suspension" would >>> bar Milingo from >>> ordaining priests, leading Mass and performing other >>> sacraments, according >>> to the Rev. Thomas Reese, a Jesuit writer and expert >>> on the church. Milingo, >>> 76, has had a troubled relationship with the Vatican >>> for years. >>> Before his marriage, Catholic officials accused him >>> of promoting African >>> indigenous beliefs by performing mass exorcisms and >>> healing ceremonies. Then >>> in 2001, the archbishop married Maria Sung, a South >>> Korean acupuncturist >>> Moon chose for him, at a mass wedding in New York. >>> Four months later, Milingo renounced the union, >>> after a personal appeal from >>> Pope John Paul II. But Milingo said he grew >>> frustrated by restrictions on >>> his ministry, so he fled Rome. In July, he >>> reappeared in the United States >>> to announce his new organization. He says he now >>> lives with his wife in the >>> Washington, D.C., area. >>> >>> >>> >>> = >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >>> faithandlife-unsubscribe@associate.= >>> com >>> >>> >>> >>> = >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >>> faithandlife-unsubscribe@... >>> >>> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >> faithandlife-unsubscribe@... >> >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > faithandlife-unsubscribe@... > > ----------------------------------------- Catholic Financial Services Send and Receive all online Payments And Donations No Merchant Account Required! https://www.catholicfs.org/