Shoot, sorry guys. This should have gone to the list. MLW+ Mark+ OK. But, it sounds to me, we are back to the question that I asked Fr. Ken yesterday: is the issue more akin to the Donatist controversy than the Arian controversy? Is that really what you're asking? I've confused myself somewhere along the way..... > MLW+ > > > > > Thus, historically, we seem to be saying by our actions that while we > > believe the decision to ordain women was wrong and while we do not accept > > the validity of women' clergy, we still believe the Episcopal Church to > > retain the essentials of Catholicity. For the same reason, we don't > > reordain or even conditionally ordain Episcopal clergy who come to us. > The > > same holds true for confirmation. > > > > Mark+ > > >