Anyone up for a discussion of the concepts of Covenant? The results of covenants have been rather dismal on the international scene of late. Not much point in discussing the validity or force of them since governments regularly ignore them. Wouldn't it be great, at least as a t.v. event if Our President, the Kings, Petty Chieftans, Premiers, and Emirs and other potentate-wannabe's of the world assembled before the wailing wall and had a covenant making event ala Genesis 15 and Genesis 17? Perhaps the covenant making rites in the ecumenical efforts of Christians in our time need a little of the drama of the good old Abrahamic days. We might take the matter a little more seriously. Charles+