Paul+ and All+ There is a good article in the December issue of "Touchstone" that deals with headship, written by a prof at Trinity ESM. There have also been several other good works on headship by, as Paul+ points out, mainly Prot theologians. This side of the argument seems to allow us to breath with both lungs (Biblical/Headship issue AND Catholic/Tradition issue). But, again if I understand Mark's+ question, what does it do to the nature of the Church? For some reason, I keep being pulled back to Lewis who's arguing for another religion and I wonder: "Does that leaven leaven the whole lump?" (as Mark+ points out: the ACC argument, not necessarily "ours."). Lewis never had to go there since it wasn't an issue -- at least a realized issue -- when he wrote his essay. What would he have said the ordination of women did -- if anything -- to the very essence of the Church? Any Lewis scholars out there? MLW+