[faithandlife] Re: [FaithandLife] Presbyter vs. Sacerdos

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From: <gdvw@...>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:07:15 -0000 (UTC)
> Rev. Fr.,There's some good stuff here. I think we will resolve this
problem with the REC as we begin to talk and meet and work with them on
a grassroots level over time and I welcome it though hereabouts this is
not easily accomplished. GDVW+
>
> For a more nuanced presentation of the words hieros, sacerdos and
> presbyter, see "Anglican Belief and Practice" at the APA's web site.
>
> "Sacerdos" has a venerable Christian history, very often meaning little
> more than "liturgical president," typically a bishop surrounded by a
> semi-circle of priests.  But is nothing to be afraid of, as the author
> of your lengthy snippet seems to be.
>
> That is a case of talking quite past one's rhetorical opponent.  (In the
> cases of Lightfoot and Hughes, probably some long-forgotten medieval
> person.)
>
> At all events, both Lightfoot and the Articles of Religion were
> concerned to argue against the notion of offering anew what Christ
> offered once and for all.  To be sure such thinking of the sacrifice of
> the Mass as meretricious and additive is not sound thinking.
>
> As to the priesthood of believers in Peter's epistle, nowhere does
> Scripture tell us that the preisthood of believers (plural) is reducible
> to the the priesthood of every believer parcelled out individually.
> This notion, which we might called "priesthood by division" is analogous
> to that of "priesthood by addition," just mentioned.  The only credible
> Anglican mention of individuals so acting is in the hymn "Light's abode,
> celestial Salem," wherein individual souls are called each a priest (and
> king, mind you!) and each presents "thank-offerings."  But all this
> takes place in heaven rather than on our pilgrimage here below.
>
> I have found it more helpful to understand the distinction between the
> ministerial priesthood and that of the people of God as one of function,
> not degree.  William Temple used to say, "The Christian priest stands
> for the things of God to the people of God; the people of God stands for
> the things of God to the world."  That's a powerful notion of
> priesthood.
>
> The battles of the nineteenth century should teach us that one can
> revere the ordained minstry as much as one likes as long as one reveres
> the Church more.
>
> I suppose the same holds true between the Church militant and the
> Kingdom of God, but I haven't thought that through yet.
>
> Paul Blankinship+
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Knox Duncan" <knoxduncan@...>
> To: <faithandlife@...>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:07 PM
> Subject: [FaithandLife] Presbyter vs. Sacerdos
>
>
> The term "priest" is identical in origin with the word "presbyter,"
> which literally means "elder."
>
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