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From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
> Ah yes. And why not tho of course use the respective oil for each
Sacrament. Blessings. GDVW+


> Read the whole thingy Father. I was speaking of the use of salt and
> oils at Baptism not the Baptism itself. If we're going to use oil lets
> just confirm the little rascal while we're at it.
> gms+
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD <gdvw@...>
> To: faithandlife@...
> Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [FaithandLife] Almost But Not Quite?
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>> Father: Really! 'quasi sacrament'? Thats a new one. Blessings. GDVW+
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> "We've had this discussion many times before: is a child to be admitted
> to
>> Eucharist based on his or her baptism (i.e., full inclusion in the
>> covenant
>> people of God - and that's not simply a Calvinist idea as Calvin
> himself
>> simply borrowed it from antiquity) or is confirmation the hinge-pin?"
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>> What makes it a quasi-sacrament is that you are asserting that the
> child
>> is thereby admitted to the HC. Not true - not even antiquity.
> Antiquity is
>> on the side of the Orthodox, not the West. The Calvinistic idea is an
>> assault against Confirmation as a sacrament. Yes confirmation is the
>> hinge, at least it is to the Orthodox and our order as well. Why not
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>> return to the Eastern practice, which is the oldest anyway? The
> reason is
>> because it would take a long time to teach the laity and we would lose
>> people in the process.  But the answer is not to simply ignore the
> proper
>> order and do what we want to do. Remember that's is our major
> complaint
>> against other jurisdictions that lay some claim to the Anglican way.
>> gms+
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