[faithandlife] Re: [FaithandLife] The death penalty debate: stacking the deck statistically

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From: gmspencer@...
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:20:18 -0400
The RCC does not oppose the death penalty, nor does the NT exclude it, 
but it is mighty hard to have such strong faith in our broken legal 
system that one could in good conscience pull the trigger. At least for 
me it is hard. Just read the blog Durham in Wonderland to see how 
corrupt the former DA in Durham is and widespread the Bar believes such 
corruption is across the USA. The most powerful person in the court is 
not the judge or the jury, but the DA. As one of the Duke Lacross 
players has pointed out over and over again, the reason they have seen 
justice is because of the many resources of their parents. Just a few 
years ago in NC a man was released after spending something like 20 
years in prison for a rape he did not committ. I think all death 
penalties should be suspended immediately simply because our legal 
system is broken and corrupt. But the death penalty itself is not 
non-Christian in itself, in my opinion.
gms+


-----Original Message-----
From: The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD <gdvw@...>
To: faithandlife@...
Cc: JADAgency@...
Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [FaithandLife] The death penalty debate: stacking the deck 
statistically






Father: Exactly. While a lawful State  theoretically  could decree such 
a
penalty, a cursory look at the OT shows that the requirements were so
complex as to make it practically impossible: See the relevent sections 
of
the Catechism (and Commentary) of the Catholic Church. Blessings. GDVW+




Are you saying the stark provision of the Noahic covenant for capital
> punishment no longer applies?
>
> Wayne+
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charles scott [mailto:crscottblu@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
> To: faithandlife@...
> Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] death penalty debate: stacking the deck
>
> Brothers+
>
> Pardon me if I've sent this twice.  Yahoo is slow this
> week.
>
> I am generally opposed to early release of criminals,
> and opposed to both the death penalty and to life
> imprisonment at the tax-payers expense.  I'm rather in
> favor of penal colonies the British used and the
> Soviet Style solution:  Siberia.
>
> He who does not work, neither let him eat.  Let the
> criminal element be productive or starve. There is no
> justice in letting them exist at the expense of
> society.
>
> Chaplains could still appeal for the salvation of the
> souls of those on Devil's Island but even the converts
> should still carry their own weight and serve whatever
> sentence was meted out.
>
> Charles+
>
> --- "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
> wrote:
>
>> > Dean Scott: As an active opponent of the deasth
>> penalty I saw this. It
>> is highly skewed and has an agenda. The overwhelming
>> data for
>> decades/centuries shows just the oppsoite.
>> Blessings. GDVW+
>> >
>> > AP
>> > Updated: 4:09 a.m. ET June 11, 2007
>> >
>> > Anti-death penalty forces have gained momentum in
>> the
>> > past few years, with a moratorium in Illinois,
>> court
>> > disputes over lethal injection in more than a
>> > half-dozen states and progress toward outright
>> > abolishment in New Jersey.
>> >
>> > The steady drumbeat of DNA exonerations - pointing
>> out
>> > flaws in the justice system - has weighed against
>> > capital punishment. The moral opposition is loud,
>> too,
>> > echoed in Europe and the rest of the
>> industrialized
>> > world, where all but a few countries banned
>> executions
>> > years ago.
>> >
>>
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