Duke University had nothing to do with bringing justice to the case. 
Far from it President Broadhead fired the lacrosse coach and suspended 
the teams' play for one year and essentially declared the whole team 
guilty till they were declared innocent a few weeks ago by the attorney 
general of NC, a highly unusual action. It is one thing to say that 
there isn't any evidence to go forward and quite another to declare 
them innocent. Duke settled with the three players about a month ago 
and speculation is that the settlement was over $10 millions dollars 
for each player whom Broadhead hung out to dry while all the time 
sucking up to the NAACP in Durham that had already declared the players 
guilty of raping an "honors" student on their offical website. There 
you have it. Colleges and universities used to practice that old virtue 
of loco parentis for the children placed in their care. That too is 
another quaint idea that has been tossed into the trash bin of western 
civilization.
gms+


-----Original Message-----
From: The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD <gdvw@...>
To: faithandlife@...
Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:41:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [FaithandLife] RSVP: The death penalty debate: stacking the 
deck statistically






Father: Please read the statement of the USCCB and I think you will
quickly change your mind about the interpretation of the CCC by some.. I
agree 100% (being a former Court Clerk) about the wicked broken 
'judicial
system' ' in the land of the free & the home of the Bush'.              

                                                                         

                The sort of thing that happened in Durham with the
lacrosse players is only the tip of the iceberg.Happily they and their
university had the resources to pull the chain of the incompetent DA.But
how many thousands do not!?!  Virginia is particularly egregious in this
regard. Blessings. GDVW+




I have seen so manymany cases where justice in any sense never entered
into it.The RCC does not oppose the death penalty, nor does the NT 
exclude
it,
> but it is mighty hard to have such strong faith in our broken legal
> system that one could in good conscience pull the trigger. At least 
for
> me it is hard. Just read the blog Durham in Wonderland to see how
> corrupt the former DA in Durham is and widespread the Bar believes 
such
> corruption is across the USA. The most powerful person in the court is
> not the judge or the jury, but the DA. As one of the Duke Lacross
> players has pointed out over and over again, the reason they have seen
> justice is because of the many resources of their parents. Just a few
> years ago in NC a man was released after spending something like 20
> years in prison for a rape he did not committ. I think all death
> penalties should be suspended immediately simply because our legal
> system is broken and corrupt. But the death penalty itself is not
> non-Christian in itself, in my opinion.
> gms+
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD <gdvw@...>
> To: faithandlife@...
> Cc: JADAgency@...
> Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [FaithandLife] The death penalty debate: stacking the deck
> statistically
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Father: Exactly. While a lawful State  theoretically  could decree 
such
> a
> penalty, a cursory look at the OT shows that the requirements were so
> complex as to make it practically impossible: See the relevent 
sections
> of
> the Catechism (and Commentary) of the Catholic Church. Blessings. 
GDVW+
>
>
>
>
> Are you saying the stark provision of the Noahic covenant for capital
>> punishment no longer applies?
>>
>> Wayne+
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: charles scott [mailto:crscottblu@...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
>> To: faithandlife@...
>> Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] death penalty debate: stacking the deck
>>
>> Brothers+
>>
>> Pardon me if I've sent this twice.  Yahoo is slow this
>> week.
>>
>> I am generally opposed to early release of criminals,
>> and opposed to both the death penalty and to life
>> imprisonment at the tax-payers expense.  I'm rather in
>> favor of penal colonies the British used and the
>> Soviet Style solution:  Siberia.
>>
>> He who does not work, neither let him eat.  Let the
>> criminal element be productive or starve. There is no
>> justice in letting them exist at the expense of
>> society.
>>
>> Chaplains could still appeal for the salvation of the
>> souls of those on Devil's Island but even the converts
>> should still carry their own weight and serve whatever
>> sentence was meted out.
>>
>> Charles+
>>
>> --- "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> > Dean Scott: As an active opponent of the deasth
>>> penalty I saw this. It
>>> is highly skewed and has an agenda. The overwhelming
>>> data for
>>> decades/centuries shows just the oppsoite.
>>> Blessings. GDVW+
>>> >
>>> > AP
>>> > Updated: 4:09 a.m. ET June 11, 2007
>>> >
>>> > Anti-death penalty forces have gained momentum in
>>> the
>>> > past few years, with a moratorium in Illinois,
>>> court
>>> > disputes over lethal injection in more than a
>>> > half-dozen states and progress toward outright
>>> > abolishment in New Jersey.
>>> >
>>> > The steady drumbeat of DNA exonerations - pointing
>>> out
>>> > flaws in the justice system - has weighed against
>>> > capital punishment. The moral opposition is loud,
>>> too,
>>> > echoed in Europe and the rest of the
>>> industrialized
>>> > world, where all but a few countries banned
>>> executions
>>> > years ago.
>>> >
>>>
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