>Father: Thanks for the update/background on Duke and the Lacrosse
players. I am sorry to hear it. Apparently Broadhead is the real Blue
Devil. The whole thing smacks of the Tawana Brawley 'rape' 20+ yrs ago
that shot Al Sharpton to fame.                                           
                                                                    The
NAACP has had a century of spinning and playiong fast and loose with the
truth. They even have a chapter here in northern nevada tho there are
almost none of their constituency present. I am glad the players got the
compensation. Many mis/maltreated folk like them get nothing but the
door.Blessings. GDVW+








 Duke University had nothing to do with bringing justice to the case.
> Far from it President Broadhead fired the lacrosse coach and suspended
> the teams' play for one year and essentially declared the whole team
> guilty till they were declared innocent a few weeks ago by the attorney
> general of NC, a highly unusual action. It is one thing to say that
> there isn't any evidence to go forward and quite another to declare
> them innocent. Duke settled with the three players about a month ago
> and speculation is that the settlement was over $10 millions dollars
> for each player whom Broadhead hung out to dry while all the time
> sucking up to the NAACP in Durham that had already declared the players
> guilty of raping an "honors" student on their offical website. There
> you have it. Colleges and universities used to practice that old virtue
> of loco parentis for the children placed in their care. That too is
> another quaint idea that has been tossed into the trash bin of western
> civilization.
> gms+
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD <gdvw@...>
> To: faithandlife@...
> Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:41:24 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [FaithandLife] RSVP: The death penalty debate: stacking the
> deck statistically
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Father: Please read the statement of the USCCB and I think you will
> quickly change your mind about the interpretation of the CCC by some.. I
> agree 100% (being a former Court Clerk) about the wicked broken
> 'judicial
> system' ' in the land of the free & the home of the Bush'.
>
>
>
>                 The sort of thing that happened in Durham with the
> lacrosse players is only the tip of the iceberg.Happily they and their
> university had the resources to pull the chain of the incompetent DA.But
> how many thousands do not!?!  Virginia is particularly egregious in this
> regard. Blessings. GDVW+
>
>
>
>
> I have seen so manymany cases where justice in any sense never entered
> into it.The RCC does not oppose the death penalty, nor does the NT
> exclude
> it,
>> but it is mighty hard to have such strong faith in our broken legal
>> system that one could in good conscience pull the trigger. At least
> for
>> me it is hard. Just read the blog Durham in Wonderland to see how
>> corrupt the former DA in Durham is and widespread the Bar believes
> such
>> corruption is across the USA. The most powerful person in the court is
>> not the judge or the jury, but the DA. As one of the Duke Lacross
>> players has pointed out over and over again, the reason they have seen
>> justice is because of the many resources of their parents. Just a few
>> years ago in NC a man was released after spending something like 20
>> years in prison for a rape he did not committ. I think all death
>> penalties should be suspended immediately simply because our legal
>> system is broken and corrupt. But the death penalty itself is not
>> non-Christian in itself, in my opinion.
>> gms+
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD <gdvw@...>
>> To: faithandlife@...
>> Cc: JADAgency@...
>> Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT)
>> Subject: [FaithandLife] The death penalty debate: stacking the deck
>> statistically
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Father: Exactly. While a lawful State  theoretically  could decree
> such
>> a
>> penalty, a cursory look at the OT shows that the requirements were so
>> complex as to make it practically impossible: See the relevent
> sections
>> of
>> the Catechism (and Commentary) of the Catholic Church. Blessings.
> GDVW+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you saying the stark provision of the Noahic covenant for capital
>>> punishment no longer applies?
>>>
>>> Wayne+
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: charles scott [mailto:crscottblu@...]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
>>> To: faithandlife@...
>>> Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] death penalty debate: stacking the deck
>>>
>>> Brothers+
>>>
>>> Pardon me if I've sent this twice.  Yahoo is slow this
>>> week.
>>>
>>> I am generally opposed to early release of criminals,
>>> and opposed to both the death penalty and to life
>>> imprisonment at the tax-payers expense.  I'm rather in
>>> favor of penal colonies the British used and the
>>> Soviet Style solution:  Siberia.
>>>
>>> He who does not work, neither let him eat.  Let the
>>> criminal element be productive or starve. There is no
>>> justice in letting them exist at the expense of
>>> society.
>>>
>>> Chaplains could still appeal for the salvation of the
>>> souls of those on Devil's Island but even the converts
>>> should still carry their own weight and serve whatever
>>> sentence was meted out.
>>>
>>> Charles+
>>>
>>> --- "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Dean Scott: As an active opponent of the deasth
>>>> penalty I saw this. It
>>>> is highly skewed and has an agenda. The overwhelming
>>>> data for
>>>> decades/centuries shows just the oppsoite.
>>>> Blessings. GDVW+
>>>> >
>>>> > AP
>>>> > Updated: 4:09 a.m. ET June 11, 2007
>>>> >
>>>> > Anti-death penalty forces have gained momentum in
>>>> the
>>>> > past few years, with a moratorium in Illinois,
>>>> court
>>>> > disputes over lethal injection in more than a
>>>> > half-dozen states and progress toward outright
>>>> > abolishment in New Jersey.
>>>> >
>>>> > The steady drumbeat of DNA exonerations - pointing
>>>> out
>>>> > flaws in the justice system - has weighed against
>>>> > capital punishment. The moral opposition is loud,
>>>> too,
>>>> > echoed in Europe and the rest of the
>>>> industrialized
>>>> > world, where all but a few countries banned
>>>> executions
>>>> > years ago.
>>>> >
>>>>
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