In my opinion they suffice just fine for 5 & 6.

Fr. Glenn





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From: Rev. Dr. Derrick Hassert <cranmerandlaud@...>

To: faithandlife@...

Sent: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:24:33 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] Unity













Would these statements suffice for 5 and 6?     It is through baptism 
by water in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy 
Ghost that an individual dies to sin and rises to new life in Christ. 
Through this rebirth, or regeneration, baptism washes away original sin 
and opens the door to God’s grace. At baptism, a person is grafted into 
the Church, the Body of Christ, and becomes a branch of the Vine. 
Furthermore, in Baptism a visible confirmation is given of God’s 
forgiveness of the individual’s sins, and one’s adoption as a son of 
God and an heir of salvation.     Scripture clearly teaches what has 
traditionally been called the Doctrine of the Real Presence. In short, 
Jesus Christ is really, truly, and uniquely present in the Eucharistic 
celebration in which the dominical elements of bread and wine serve as 
focus. Our Lord’s Presence is also to be celebrated in the life of the 
whole Church militant

  and triumphant of which the Eucharistic community is the local 
manifestation. In the words of John Cosin, "as to the manner of the 
presence of the Body and Blood of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, 
we...do not search into the manner of it with perplexing inquiries; 
but, after the example of the primitive and purest Church of Christ, we 
leave it to the power and wisdom of Our Lord..."     DH+    

gmspencer@... wrote:  May I suggest 7 essentials for Unity?















1. Belief in the Holy Scriptures to be God's Word written.







2. Belief in the Holy Traditions (like which Books actually make up the

Scriptures) including the 7 Ecumenical Councils. The Church of England

never rejected the 7 Councils, only individuals persons

 did.







3. Worship according to one of the classical Books of Common Prayer

(excluding the contemporary Book of non-Common Prayer)







4. Male only clergy.







5. A robust belief in Baptismal Regeneration.







6. A robust belief in the Real Presence of our Lord's body and blood in

the Blessed Sacrament without speculation on "how" it happens and a

commitment to this Liturgy as the ordinary Sunday Service of the Church

of God.







7. A robust belief in Apostolic Succession.















Jurisdictions that affirm these essentials are Orthodox and Catholic.

Whether they have candles upon the Altar or even if they call the Altar

a Table; whether they wear surplice and stole or alb and chasubles; cap

or a tippet; slippers or socks; lace or lattice work at the rails; gold

chains and buckets of blood; or the simplicity of John Calvin’s

unadorned undercroft – it matter

 not one bit because they are Catholics

and therefore Anglicans.



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