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From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:19:36 -0800 (PST)
> To be sure there were tensions and strife between Rome and Canterbury
but after the visit of Archbishop Ramsey to Pope Paul VI that began to
change. In actual fact the tensions returned with the coming of JP2. He
indifference and iognorance of Anglicanism 'on the ground' created many
difficulties. Blessings. GDVW+




You have to admit that it is an interesting movement, though, especially
> if
> we consider all the pre JPII feelings between RCs and Anglicans.
>
> MLW+
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Rev. Dr. Derrick Hassert [mailto:cranmerandlaud@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:09 AM
> To: faithandlife@...
> Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] Benedict XVI and Anglicans
>
>
> All well and good, except the sentence "He is thinking of making special
> pastoral arrangements for Anglican converts. . ." is a tad misleading (or
> simply uninformed). The Roman Church already has a pastoral provision for
> Anglican converts, complete with Anglican liturgy with the Gregorian
> canon.
> ++Hepworth's continued pleas for uniate status (which we are told are not
> pleas for uniate status) seem to be little more than a pastoral provision
> writ large. I know several who walked away from TAC because a clear answer
> to what this all meant was never given, they were told to simply "trust
> the
> bishops."
>
> DH+
>
> Father Chandler Holder Jones SSC <fatherchandler@...> wrote:
>
>
> Pope gets radical and woos the Anglicans
>
>
> By Damian Thompson for The Telegraph
>
>
> Two and a half years after the name "Josephum" came booming down from the
> balcony of St Peter's, making liberal Catholics weep with rage, Pope
> Benedict XVI is revealing his programme of reform. And it is
> breathtakingly
> ambitious.
> The 80-year-old Pontiff is planning a purification of the Roman liturgy in
> which decades of trendy innovations will be swept away. This recovery of
> the
> sacred is intended to draw Catholics closer to the Orthodox and ultimately
> to heal the 1,000 year Great Schism. But it is also designed to attract
> vast
> numbers of conservative Anglicans, who will be offered the protection of
> the
> Holy Father if they covert en masse.
> The liberal cardinals don't like the sound of it at all.
> Ever since the shock of Benedict's election, they have been waiting for
> him
> to show his hand. Now that he has, the resistance has begun in earnest -
> and
> the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, is in the
> thick of it.
> "Pope Benedict is isolated," I was told when I visited Rome last week. "So
> many people, even in the Vatican, oppose him, and he feels the strain
> immensely." Yet he is ploughing ahead. He reminds me of another
> conservative
> revolutionary, Margaret Thatcher, who waited a couple of years before
> taking
> on the Cabinet "wets" sabotaging her reforms.
> Benedict's pontificate moved into a new phase on July 7, with the
> publication of his apostolic letter Summorum Pontificum.
> With a stroke of his pen, the Pope restored the traditional Latin Mass -
> in
> effect banned for 40 years - to parity with the modern liturgy. Shortly
> afterwards, he replaced Archbishop Piero Marini, the papal Master of
> Ceremonies who turned many of John Paul II's Masses into politically
> correct
> carnivals.
> Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor was most displeased. Last week, he hit back with
> a
> "commentary" on Summorum Pontificum.
> According to Murphy-O'Connor, the ruling leaves the power of local bishops
> untouched. In fact, it removes the bishops' power to block the ancient
> liturgy. In other words, the cardinal - who tried to stop Benedict issuing
> the ruling - is misrepresenting its contents.
> Alas, he is not alone: dozens of bishops in Britain, Europe and America
> have
> tried the same trick.
> Murphy-O'Connor's "commentary" was modelled on equally dire "guidelines"
> written by Bishop Arthur Roche of Leeds with the apparent purpose of
> discouraging the faithful from exercising their new rights.
> A few years ago the ploy might have worked. But news travels fast in the
> traditionalist blogosphere, and these tactics have been brought to the
> attention of papal advisers.
> This month, Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, a senior Vatican official close to
> Benedict, declared that "bishops and even cardinals" who misrepresented
> Summorum Pontificum were "in rebellion against the Pope".
> Ranjith is tipped to become the next Prefect of the Congregation for
> Divine
> Worship, in charge of regulating worldwide liturgy. That makes sense: if
> Benedict is moving into a higher gear, then he needs street fighters in
> high
> office.
> He may also have to reform an entire department, the Pontifical Council
> for
> Promoting Christian Unity, which spends most of its time promoting the
> sort
> of ecumenical waffle that Benedict abhors.
> This is a sensitive moment. Last month, the bishops of the Traditional
> Anglican Communion, a network of 400,000 breakaway Anglo-Catholics based
> mainly in America and the Commonwealth, wrote to Rome asking for "full,
> corporate, sacramental union".
> Their letter was drafted with the help of the Vatican. Benedict is
> overseeing the negotiations. Unlike John Paul II, he admires the
> Anglo-Catholic tradition. He is thinking of making special pastoral
> arrangements for Anglican converts walking away from the car wreck of the
> Anglican Communion.
> This would mean that they could worship together, free from bullying by
> local bishops who dislike the newcomers' conservatism and would rather
> "dialogue" with Anglicans than receive them into the Church.
> The liberation of the Latin liturgy, the rapprochement with Eastern
> Orthodoxy, the absorption of former Anglicans - all these ambitions
> reflect
> Benedict's conviction that the Catholic Church must rediscover the
> liturgical treasure of Christian history to perform its most important
> task:
> worshipping God.
> This conviction is shared by growing numbers of young Catholics, but not
> by
> the church politicians who have dominated the hierarchies of Europe for
> too
> long.
> By failing to welcome the latest papal initiatives - or even to display
> any
> interest in them, beyond the narrow question of how their power is
> affected
> - the bishops of England and Wales have confirmed Benedict's low opinion
> of
> them.
> Now he should replace them. If the Catholic reformation is to start
> anywhere, it might as well be here.
>
>
>
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