Fr. Wiebe+ Thank you for that bit of history, a good reminder that there is in every generation people who think they leaders on the cutting edge, finding new truth. A seminarian a few years ago excitedly exclaimed, "New theologies are being discovered every day!" Nearly a decade ago a cleric expounded at length on God's feminine side, referring to Shekinah, Jesus' reference to a mother hen when weeping over Jerusalem, etc. At the end of his analysis he revised some liturgy and included Wiccan prayers. What spirit indeed? Last night I picked up a small book I had read 40+ years ago, published in 1964, written by Joseph Lortz, titled "How the Reformation Came." That little peek into how German Roman Catholic theologians in the first half of the 20th century viewed their history gave me hope in the 1960's of possible growth to unity among Christians. It is a shame that so many years lapsed between the writings of that generation and the translation into English of their works. Likewise, it was years before the Documents of Vatican II were available to English readers. Unfortunately when those documents were available in English in the 1960's the noisy politics of the last half of the 20th century drowned out the call for thoughtful, prayer discussion and the fragmentation of Christianity continued. In that regard, the 20th and 21st centuries were much like the 16th. Among his conclusions after surveying Church history, Lortz wrote in regard to the Protestant Reformation, "there was indeed a considerable share of Catholic guilt for the revolt that came.' And, "A reformation had become a historical necessity....The institutions still stood, but, to a great extent, life had gone out of them." Lortz indicated when assessing issues of "guilt" or responsibility for the failure of the Church in the late middle ages we should look not so much to individuals as "the historical current at large, the growth or decline of the general public, the growth or decline of the visible kingdom of God, and the laws of life which underlie these occurences." He said it is not given to the Christian to sit in judgment over personalites but that it is important to determine the objective failure, the weakiness of the Church that made it susceptible to spiritual disease. The Catholic Church he says, shares in the guilt, the failure. He wrote, "The Reformation is a Catholic concern or must become one. Within the area of Christian concepts, the guilt we share calls for an unconditional mea culpa as the precondition for the solution of the task which we called to mind in the beginning of this book. If we do not make this confession, then it will be impossible to arrive at an understanding at the human level or at a settlement in the Christian sphere. The confession of guilt by Pope Adrian VI gives us an example. . . . the Reformation is a Cahtolic concern inasmuch as there is a Catholic share in the causes that led to it, and therefore a Catholic share in the guilt that is in it. We cannot but make it our concern." Lortz' concluding paragraph calls for all Christians to accept that the failure of the pre-Reformation period was due to "the religious strength of Christianity not being sufficiently activated. Having learned this lesson, we must now try not to repeat the same mistake again. If we take up anew the genuine concern of the Reformation in order to advance it toward a more just, more fitting fulfillment, then our Christian resources must be freed to become effective.. . .above all, there is need for prayer the Lord and Master of all history may bless our human endeavors. The high priestly prayer of Our Lord that all may be one indicates vividly that the prayer for this concern is not something that is left to our pleasure, to our choice. It is our duty." Advent is a time in which the Church calls for reformation of life. We pray, "Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth." Charles+ --- "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...> wrote: > >Frater: We had the opportunity to hear Dr > Schememann and Dean Hopko aeons ago on this very subject. Schmemann was at the Faculty Club at the > University of California in a panel with among > others the then Dean of CDSP (Borsch) who proclaimed that while the NT, ancient Tradition and the > Councils all voted in the negative on the issue of > distaff clerics, Borsch said 'it is the spirit that is moving us to this....'. Schmemann asked, '...and what is that spirits name...?' > Borsch got up and left. And that says it all. Blessings. GDVW+ >