Hee, Hee. (Big smile here) -- Fr. Wiebe, I doubt any of our septuagenarians and octogenarians are likely to wade in muddy waters or take up skiing. I think Hall exhibits exemplary clarity in the section cited. From what I have observed, I think some of our churches are in danger of erring in the other direction. If the Woman at the Well of Samaria were to appear in our midst I fear some of our folk would attempt to dissuade her from going about asking, "Could this be the Christ?" Charles --- GDV Wiebe <palatine1477@...> wrote: > > Dean Scott: Thanks for this. Hall had a real > influence in his day and of course the old American > Church Union still offers his books. However, we > need to be very careful in the 21 c. that we do not > muddy the waters between laity and sacerdotality. > This is one of the things that led to the > abandonment of Apostolic Order by ECUSA (and others) > in the last years. We can also see this in the 79 > BCP where many of the prayers that are properly > offered by the priest/ celebrant are now made > 'common'. slippery slope indeed. Blessings. GDVW. >