Fr. Wiebe, you declare "heresy" from time to time.  I've implied this 
question before, but please explain why the promotion of homosexual activity 
in and out of the church is not heresy and the ordination of women is? 
Regards.  KnoxDuncan@... P.S.:  Was not St. Paul was a 
"tentmaker"--weaver or some such-- who ordained himself after his experience 
en route to Damascus?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
To: <faithandlife@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: [FaithandLife] 'Big Jon' strikes out again.


>>                           As one who applauds the decision of the
> California State Supreme Court cited below,
> along with many I equally deplore the nonsense
> of the present Bishop of Los Angeles. +Bruno
> seems to think that he (an ex Burbank PD) is a
> social worker not a Bishop. His smattering of
> theological knowledge/ignorance shows -over
> and over again.
>
>
> These 2nd and 3rd career prelates are really
> beginning to tell on the TEC.
>
>
>                 Both the Bishop of Nevada
> (Edwards) and the Bishop of California
> (Andrus) came to the Church after long secular
> careers.  To say nothing of Mrs Schorri.
>
>
>                     It is long past time for
> the Church to rethink the value of  some of
> these 'vocations'.
>
>                                 Using the
> Church as 'something to do in retirememnt'  or
> as some sort of 'penance' for past miscreance
> insults everone-not least of all God.
> Blessings. GDVW+
>
>
>
>
>   Thursday, May 15, 2008 Bishop of Los Angeles celebrates marriage ruling
>> The Rt. Rev. J. Jon Bruno, Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Los 
>> Angeles,
>> has issued the following statement concerning today's California Supreme
>> Court decision regarding same-gender relationships:
>>
>> Today's Supreme Court decision on same-gender relationships is important
>> because it reflects our baptismal vow to "strive for justice and peace
>> among all people and respect the dignity of every human being" and our
>> commitment to justice and mercy for all people.
>>
>> The Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles has been a leader in working for the
>> rights of all people in the State of California, and that work is honored
>> in today's ruling. The canons of our church, under "Rights of the Laity"
>> (Canon 1:17.5), forbid discrimination on the basis of race, color, ethnic
>> origin, national origin, marital status, sex, sexual orientation,
>> disabilities or age. We affirm equal rights for all.
>>
>> We will continue to advocate for equality in the future and will do so at
>> the General Convention of the Episcopal Church, which will meet in 
>> Anaheim
>> in 2009.
>>
>> I celebrate and give thanks for this decision of the court and look
>> forward with joy and excitement to a future of justice and mercy for all
>> people in the State of California and the Episcopal Church.
>>
>> To paraphrase St. Paul, there is neither Jew nor Greek,  slave nor free,
>> gay nor straight in Jesus Christ our Lord.
>>
>> J. Jon Bruno
>> Bishop of Los Angeles
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