> It is about civil rights/justice and equality in the civil sphere. Its no joke and is not a fixation. Blessings. GDVW+Thanks for a most interesting and enlightening addition to this discussion > of "marriage"! > > John+ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gmspencer@... > To: faithandlife@... > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] RSVP/RSVP PATHETIC: GLOBAL ANGLICAN FUTURE - > JERUSALEM 2008 > > > > > The meaning of marriage was understood by all. It does absolutely > nothing for the stability of society to change the meaning of language > to accomodate the few who aren't capable of marriage. > > > I don't mean to butt in when you guys seem to having so much fun, but I > would like to point out that the constant use of the word "marriage" may > be problematic. Our word is "matrimony" not "marriage." In the Form of > Solemnization of Matrimony on page 303, the BCP declares that Christian > matrimony is a state of being between one man and one woman that > represents “the spiritual marriage and unity betwixt Christ and the > Church…” The word “matrimony” comes from the Latin > “matrimonium,” which was derived from the word for “material” or > “substance.” “Substance” is simply that from which things are > made. The Latin “mater,” which translated means “mother,” means > the same thing. All of us were made from our mothers. In the Nicene > Creed* when we profess that Jesus Christ “was incarnate by the Holy > Ghost of the Virgin Mary” we are, by professing the “of,” > declaring our belief that the very material or substance of Christ’s > humanity came from his mother Mary. Matrimony means Motherhood. It is > important to note that the man and the woman enter a state matrimony, > not patrimony. According to the logic of the liturgy of the BCP a maiden > (how quaint is that word!) enters the state of motherhood when she is > married, not when (and if) she actually, biologically, conceives and > bears children. The Form of Solemnization of Matrimony bestows the grace > of “motherhood,” so that she may walk faithfully in that vocation. > Children do not make a mother; God makes the mother so that children > have a mother to come to. Our use of the word "marriage" is, in my > opinion, a capitulation that allows the state to set the terms of this > debate. Of course I could be wrong. > gms+ > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: faithandlife-unsubscribe@associate. > com > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > faithandlife-unsubscribe@... > >