>  Have " I ever been...". What? Has Joe McCarthy come back from his poor
besotted grave?                                                        
                                            I agree that the East has
much to tell us about the mechanics of Holy Matrimony. My position is
the Western position first and if I cannot use that to help people then
I will 'cross the Bosphorus'.                                          
                                                    I am glad that you
proclaimed your heterosexuality but I really do not care except it made
you perhaps 'feel better about yourself? It neither breaks my leg nor
robs my pocket as Jefferson said about disestablishment. The private
lives, esp of priests, as a former Bishop of London once said
is no ones business.                                                      
                                           As for making declarations of
heretical views I will continue to do that whenever and wherever it is
appropriate and I will take no less than St Thomas Aquinas for my source. 
                                                                          
                       By the way have YOU read Fr Daniel J Helmniak's
book "What The Bible Really Says About Homosexuality?" I commend that and
also the now deceased former Prof of Ethics at Fuller (and a 5 point
Calvinist who graduated from the Free University in Amsterdam) Dr Louis
Smedes ThD (a teaching elder of the Christian Reformed Church)-"There Is a
Wideness in God's Mercy". The fomer Presbyterians and Reformed in our
ranks might feelmore comfortable with the latter. Blessings. GDVW+




Dr. Lonchamp wrote: >I merely was musing about what might have played "an
> inordinately large part in" the development of Fr. Wiebe's posture on the
> subject of homosexuality--and felt that I was probably not alone, in this
> FaithandLife list, in wondering.<   >It appears that JTP, by his e-mail
> below, has caught the gist of what I was wondering about. ("[T]here
> appears to be some kind of intense fixation on the whole subject of
> homosexuality by Fr. Wiebe that is never explained.<
>
> In my experience on this forum, Fr. Wiebe, yoou have seldom hesitated to
> anathematize those with whom you disagree in matters temporal and
> theological, and so you should not mind a direct question implied in the
> excerpt above:  "Are you--or have you ever been...? If not, say so and
> explain why you promote the agenda that has torn the Anglican communion
> apart."  That question is appropriate, I think, when a serious discussion
> of homosexuality is on the table.  Without taking offense, I have
> sometimes answered a similar question as relates to matrimony.  I often
> have said--privately and publicly--that I prefer the position of the
> Eastern Orthodox on the subject of divorce and remarriage to that of the
> Church of Rome. The Orthodox do accept matrimony as a "lifelong" contract
> between a man and a woman, but when reconciliation after divorce is not
> feasible, the faithful may remarry in the church-- e.g., Jackie and
> Aristotle Onassis--thus avoiding the linguistic manipulation of rampant
> "annulment."  On several occasions,  after having expressed my opinion, I
> have been asked, "Have you ever been divorced?"  My answer is,  "No.  I
> was married for 49 years to the same woman, a university professor, now
> deceased.  We had seven chilldren."  I do not hestitate to say that I am
> unabashed heterosexual, and I promote a heterosexual lifestyle."   As a
> longtime professional counselor as well as priest, I believe firmly in
> "the forgiveness of sin for those who truly repent." I do not despise
> individuals who come to me in trouble but rather help them work through
> their problems.  Regards.  X  KnoxDuncan@...
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