----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] RSVP/RSVP PATHETIC: GLOBAL ANGLICAN FUTURE - 
JERUSALEM 2008


>> It is about civil rights/justice and equality in the civil sphere. Its
> no joke and is not a fixation. Blessings. GDVW+

I think we can all thank Fr. Wiebe for his frank answers, one of which above 
speaks volumes.  Clearly, with the one exception of the very important issue 
of women's ordination, he holds to the revisionist "theology" of The 
Episcopal Church.

By treating homosexuals as a persecuted minority rather than encouraging 
them to come to Christ for healing -- spiritual and, in more cases that Fr. 
Wiebe is able to admit, sexual -- The Episcopal Church and Fr. Wiebe are 
denying people with homosexual inclinations the full benefits of the gospel.

I personally know two men who have come out of the homosexual life style. 
One has been happily married for many years, and I was honored to be asked 
to be godfather to their third child.  The other has been single and 
celibate for seven years after many years of struggle.  During many of his 
years spent in the gay lifestyle he sought help through the Episcopal 
Church.  Two priest counselors came on to him and the others told him the 
line that Fr. Wiebe endorses.

Finally he realized the emptiness of  TEC's teachings on homosexuality and 
fled to the Roman Catholic Church where he was accepted as a person without 
having his lifestyle given approval.  (Please don't argue with that 
knee-jerk gay activist line that it is impossible to hate the sin and love 
the sinner, for that is not only what Jesus did but also what he taught us 
to do as well.)  Seven years ago with the help of a good secular 
psychiatrist and the loving support of a Baptist congregation that is always 
there for him, he broke free and is the happiest and most at ease I have 
even seen him in the 41 years I have known him.  I thank God for what He has 
done in this man's life and for what a group of Baptists did by following 
our Lord in loving this sinner and hating the sin that held him in its grip. 
(In this case "hating the sin" means not giving in to approving his 
lifestyle.)  He would never have found healing had these people, too, told 
him he deserved justice and approval.

John+