> I am not a cleric in the C of E. In TEC no one ever had to subscribe to the 39 Articles. That is the point of fact I was mentioning. I have also made clear the role of Bishop Bicknell. Blessings. GDVW+ Everyone in the Church of England must subscribe to the Articles. > Does that mean it has never been Anglican or Catholic (in the fullness > of both terms?) > > "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...> wrote: > > No one in TEC was EVER made to sign or subscribe to the Articles. I > have > said before that if we accept Bishop Bicknell's analysis then the > Articles for the most part are bearable but they are not mandatory. In > this post it is protestant Protestan PROTESTANT! I am not a Protestant. > It is as simple as that-nor are any of the AC's I know. Please > understand and accept that and then we move on. Blessings. GDVW+ >> >> KnoxDuncan wrote: I call >> myself Anglican because I accept the 39 Articles that summarize my >> religious practice. Labeling oneself as Anglican without accepting the >> Articles seems to me disingenuous. Many have commented on the >> Evangelical >> and Reformed nature of the Church of England. The 19th Century Bishop >> J.C. >> Ryle explained in 1877 that the Articles are ‘eminently Protestant and >> eminently Evangelical.’ Gregory Dix argued in the 1940s that Cranmer’s >> order for the Lord’s Supper in the 1552 Book of Common Prayer, (which is >> mostly what is in the 1662 BCP), as the ‘only effective attempt ever >> made >> to give liturgical expression to the doctrine of justification by faith >> alone.’ The Presbyterian Arthur Cochrane wrote in the 1960s that ‘A >> Reformed Church would surely see in a Church of England professing the >> 39 >> Articles a genuine Evangelical and Protestant Church…’ In the same >> decade, >> J. I. Packer contended that ‘there is no real room >> for doubt as to the interpretation of the Articles. They are >> demonstrably >> Protestant…and Reformed.’ A modern American Presbyterian Professor of >> Apologetics, William Edgar, described the Articles as ‘a balanced, >> biblical statement of Reformed Theology.’ Finally, on 2nd June 1953, >> when, when Queen Elizabeth 11 gave her coronation oath, one of the >> promises she made was:…to the utmost of [her] power maintain in the >> United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law [i.e. >> in the Church of England]." >> The Articles outline a "via media" in repudiating teaching and >> practices that Reformers in general condemned in Roman Catholicism. >> Article XX sides more with Luther than with Zwingli in treating the >> authority of Scripture as the FINAL and LAST word on religious matters >> rather than the ONLY word. For example, they deny supererogation of >> merit (XIV), transubstantiation (XXVIII), the sacrifice of the Mass >> (XXXI), and implicitly the sinlessness of Mary (XV). Like continental >> Protestants, the Articles affirm that Scripture is the final authority >> on salvation (VI); that Adam's fall compromised human free will (X); >> that justification is by faith in Christ's merit (XI); that both bread >> and wine should be served to all in the Lord's Supper (XXX); and that >> ministers may marry (XXXII). The Articles borrow some wording from >> Lutheran confessions, especially on the Trinity (I), the church (XIX), >> and the sacraments (XXV). But the Articles take on a Calvinist hue on >> baptism (XXVII), "a >> sign of Regeneration" and on the Lord's Supper (XXVIII)—"The body of >> Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Lord's Supper, only after a >> heavenly and spiritual manner." >> >> >> >> >> >> -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >> faithandlife-unsubscribe@... >> >> >> Fr. Duncan: >> >> Just Ditto the above for expressing my own opinion. >> >> Archdeacon James T. Payne >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >> faithandlife-unsubscribe@... >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > faithandlife-unsubscribe@... > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > faithandlife-unsubscribe@... >