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From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
> I am not a cleric in the C of E. In TEC no one ever had to subscribe to
the 39 Articles. That is the point of fact I was mentioning. I have also
made clear the role of Bishop Bicknell. Blessings. GDVW+






Everyone in the Church of England must subscribe to the Articles.
>   Does that mean it has never been Anglican or Catholic (in the fullness
> of both terms?)
>
> "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...> wrote:
>   > No one in TEC was EVER made to sign or subscribe to the Articles. I
> have
> said before that if we accept Bishop Bicknell's analysis then the
> Articles for the most part are bearable but they are not mandatory. In
> this post it is protestant Protestan PROTESTANT! I am not a Protestant.
> It is as simple as that-nor are any of the AC's I know. Please
> understand and accept that and then we move on. Blessings. GDVW+
>>
>> KnoxDuncan wrote: I call
>> myself Anglican because I accept the 39 Articles that summarize my
>> religious practice. Labeling oneself as Anglican without accepting the
>> Articles seems to me disingenuous. Many have commented on the
>> Evangelical
>> and Reformed nature of the Church of England. The 19th Century Bishop
>> J.C.
>> Ryle explained in 1877 that the Articles are ‘eminently Protestant and
>> eminently Evangelical.’ Gregory Dix argued in the 1940s that Cranmer’s
>> order for the Lord’s Supper in the 1552 Book of Common Prayer, (which is
>> mostly what is in the 1662 BCP), as the ‘only effective attempt ever
>> made
>> to give liturgical expression to the doctrine of justification by faith
>> alone.’ The Presbyterian Arthur Cochrane wrote in the 1960s that ‘A
>> Reformed Church would surely see in a Church of England professing the
>> 39
>> Articles a genuine Evangelical and Protestant Church…’ In the same
>> decade,
>> J. I. Packer contended that ‘there is no real room
>> for doubt as to the interpretation of the Articles. They are
>> demonstrably
>> Protestant…and Reformed.’ A modern American Presbyterian Professor of
>> Apologetics, William Edgar, described the Articles as ‘a balanced,
>> biblical statement of Reformed Theology.’ Finally, on 2nd June 1953,
>> when, when Queen Elizabeth 11 gave her coronation oath, one of the
>> promises she made was:…to the utmost of [her] power maintain in the
>> United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law [i.e.
>> in the Church of England]."
>> The Articles outline a "via media" in repudiating teaching and
>> practices that Reformers in general condemned in Roman Catholicism.
>> Article XX sides more with Luther than with Zwingli in treating the
>> authority of Scripture as the FINAL and LAST word on religious matters
>> rather than the ONLY word. For example, they deny supererogation of
>> merit (XIV), transubstantiation (XXVIII), the sacrifice of the Mass
>> (XXXI), and implicitly the sinlessness of Mary (XV). Like continental
>> Protestants, the Articles affirm that Scripture is the final authority
>> on salvation (VI); that Adam's fall compromised human free will (X);
>> that justification is by faith in Christ's merit (XI); that both bread
>> and wine should be served to all in the Lord's Supper (XXX); and that
>> ministers may marry (XXXII). The Articles borrow some wording from
>> Lutheran confessions, especially on the Trinity (I), the church (XIX),
>> and the sacraments (XXV). But the Articles take on a Calvinist hue on
>> baptism (XXVII), "a
>> sign of Regeneration" and on the Lord's Supper (XXVIII)—"The body of
>> Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Lord's Supper, only after a
>> heavenly and spiritual manner."
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Fr. Duncan:
>>
>> Just Ditto the above for expressing my own opinion.
>>
>> Archdeacon James T. Payne
>>
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