In a message dated 8/27/2003 4:24:54 PM Central Daylight Time, gdvw@... writes: << Thanks. What the East does IS Confirmation pure and simple.Its not the equivalent(my understanding of your phrase perhaps) to anything.It is. And we should do it too.Blessings. GDVW+ >> DKD: I agree that the East instills Chrismation with the same meaning that has traditionally been ascribed to Confirmation in the West. But the two rites do not have the same origin. That's just a fact, regardless of any later theological meanings that have been attached to these rites. Regards, Daniel