> Drew, I will remember you at the Altar of God esp.this week-end. Dealing
with souls in such state is a real priestly challenge and rather
sobering at times. Bishop JC Ryle ( 1st Liverpudlian as I recall) is
well known but his Churchmanship is about as oppposite the AC position
as can be imagined and still be in the dear old C of E.
That
Bishop Ackerman felt it necessary to promulgate such a thing is
worrying, given the Articles' peripheral position in most of ECUSA's
history.
I have been invited to the REC Westerb Clericus in November
in northern California. (DV) I hope to attend with another priest from
the Continuum and look forward to real dialogue/apologia with other
retreatants.
As for Whittaker Chambers: You have to remember(if I may
put it that way) that Henry Wallace was our choice for President in
1948!Blessings . GDVFW+
>
> McCarthy was a tailgunner, not a bombadier -- hence his "Tail Gunner
> Joe" nickname. I read Whitaker Chambers' book _Wittness_ when I was in
> eighth grade and it has had a lasting impact. Of course, the
> communists and socialists don't operate under as deep a cover now,
> wittness the 8 years of socialist rule in the U.S. from 1993-2001.
>
> Regarding Bishop Ackerman, he was not only a party to this, he was the
> originator. That it didn't pass is yet another tragic example of
> ECUSA's long decline.
>
> Regarding the Articles, I am reminded of the late Bishop J.C. Ryle who
> aptly stated that: " . . . the Thirty-Nine Articles are intended to be
> 'the Church of England's confession of fath" and ". . . the truest
> churchman is the man who most truly agrees with the Thirty-Nine
> Articles." Bishop Ryle didn't view them as a "straitjacket,"
> "inauthentically Anglican," or "not needed." I stand with Ryle. The
> Quadrilateral is great, but to assign it the same weight as the
> Articles is a mistake.
>
>
> Cullen and Joseph have my prayers. I am taking call this weekend and
> have a couple of patients on the edge of eternity myself.
>
> Soli Deo Gloria!
>
> Drew
>
>
>
>
> The Rev. Charles A. Collins, Jr., S.B.R., M.Div.
> Hospice Chaplain
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>
>
> "Although we cannot be saved by works, we also cannot be saved without
> them.
> Good works are not the way of salvation, but its proper and necessary
> evidence. A faith which does not express itself in works is dead."
> --The Rev. John R. W. Stott, D.D.
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: <gdvw@...>
>>Reply-To: faithandlife@...
>>To: <faithandlife@...>
>>Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] A Belly flop into Apostasy
>>Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:02:15 -0000 (GMT)
>>
>> Drew: The Old Bombadier was wrong then and he's wrong (were he
>>alive)now. I franjly am surprised that someone like the Bishop Ackerman
>> would be a party to such nonsense. The Articles continue to be a
>>straitjacket in many respects. They're not authentically Anglican in
>> the 21 century and are not needed.Whatever happened to the Lambeth
>>Quadrilateral? Please pray for Cullen and Joseph both dying of cancer.
>> Blessings. GDVW+
>> >
>> > Joe McCarthy was a grandstanding opportunist. That having been
>> said, history has shown that he and a number of the other red-scare
>> types weren't that far off.
>> >
>> > Bishop Akerman, whence this proposal came, is an Anglo-Catholic
>> leading an Anglo-Catholc diocese; I'm surprised that you'd have
>> trouble with this. As for me, I find confessions invaluable, which
>> I why I remain a Thirty-Nine Articles man.
>> >
>> > Soli Deo Gloria!
>> >
>> > Drew
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The Rev. Charles A. Collins, Jr., S.B.R., M.Div.
>> > Hospice Chaplain
>> > 5803 Stewart St.
>> > Hanahan, SC 29406
>> > Home: (843) 554-6833
>> > Office: (843) 554-4048
>> > E-mail: evanglican@...
>> > Weblog: http://www.palmettoanglican.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > "Although we cannot be saved by works, we also cannot be saved
>> without them.
>> > Good works are not the way of salvation, but its proper and
>> necessary
>> > evidence. A faith which does not express itself in works is dead."
>> --The Rev. John R. W. Stott, D.D.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: <gdvw@...>
>> >>Reply-To: faithandlife@...
>> >>To: <faithandlife@...>
>> >>CC: <bigchese@...>
>> >>Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] A Belly flop into Apostasy
>> >>Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:14:55 -0000 (GMT)
>> >>
>> >> > Frater: At the risk of setting off a 'tempest in a teapot' , I
>> will
>> >> say
>> >>that I would agree with that prelate in Missouri on the idea that I
>> >> must object to somehow being made to 'prove' my orthodoxy.(To who
>> and for what...). This smacks of McCarthyism or maybe the Levering
>> Oaths and like Ashcroft's Patriot Act (I, II and ???) it's not only
>> what it purports to do now, but worse what it augurs for the
>> future.Having grown up in the vile McCarthy era, I saw what happens
>> when 'we'/'they' start making 'little lists'.
>> >> Endless manifestoes and 'confessions'
>> are
>> >> NOT
>> >>Anglican if you think about it because while our Faith contains
>> aspects
>> >> thatare epistolary, most of it is tradition (thank God) and that
>> >>facility/flexibility has served us in good stead. We are in a hard
>> time
>> >> now but there have been other difficult periods and the Church
>> survivied and thrived anew. I think that will happen again-sooner
>> than we may think-if we will stay true to the plenitude of our
>> heritage. Blessings. GDVW+
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/980679/posts
>> >> >
>> >
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