> Father: Gladly received and forgotten. I've bungled a few times with
cyberia myself. Blessings. GDVW+
Please accept my apologies! I
did not intend to include in my last
> message
> the hastily typed paragraphs on Calvinism and Barth. I have only begun to
> collect data for my essay. What I sent out inadvertently was from my new
> "Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church," for which I owe thanks to
> Fr.
> Ward for letting me it was on better than half-price sale. I have used
> the
> Dictionary often. It does go to show, though, that I really was
> preparing
> "a little something" on Calvinism and Barth! Regards. X
> KnoxDuncan@...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Knox Duncan" <KnoxDuncan@...>
> To: <faithandlife@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] Caring for all the Churches (Sort Of)
>
>
>>
>>
>> Fr. Wiebe, I hope you'll not cry "Puritan aggression" when I speak your
>> oft-expressed hostility to that mighty turning point of Western
>> Civilization, the Reformation. Till your last e-mail, I as an ignorant
>> Reformed Catholic (Protesant, if you please) had thought the motto of
>> Protestantism you cited was "Every man his own PRIEST." (In fact, I
>> was
>> preparing a little something on Calvinism and its 20th Century
>> exponent,
>> Karl Barth, when I opened your e-mail!) Really, though, through the
>> cloud
>> of words, I see a "P" written on your forehead, to wit: Citing
>> conscience, inter alia, you relate how you disobeyed, decried, and
> departed
>> from your hierarchial superiors in the Episcopal Church--behavior
> certainly
>> not characteristic of an obedient Catholic who would rank the welfare of
> the
>> "organized church" above that of his "fellow-man." (I seem to remember
>> something in Scripture about that. The late Bishops of Boston and
>> Phoenix
>> also come to mind.) Clearly, at the time, you must have thought PECUSA
>> "Catholic," enjoying legitimate apostolic succession, else how could you
>> have been part of it? That so, how could an episcopate endowed with
>> power
>> concomitant to such succession possibly err? Failing patristic
> authority,
>> Rome calls such theological innovation or creativity "received dogma,"
>> does it not? (That's a rhetorical question, Fr. Wiebe. I've read
>> Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre on that score and Rome's counterattack.)
> Perhaps
>> you know that Mel Gibson and family are part of the Lefebvre movement,
>> claiming to be "Traditionalist Catholics." Herewith a copy of a letter
> from
>> the RC Archbishop of Santa Fe repudiating such movements and succinctly
>> describing what it takes to be really "Catholic!"
>>
>> Archdiocese of Santa Fe
>> THE CATHOLIC CENTER
>> 4000 SAINT JOSEPH'S PLACE, N.W.
>> ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO 87120-1709
>> AREA CODE: 505-831-8100
>>
>> May 4, 1999
>>
>> Rev. Joel Garner, O.Praem.
>> Our Lady of the Most Holy Rosary
>> 5415 Fortuna Road N.W.
>> Albuquerque, NM 87105
>>
>> Dear Father Garner:
>>
>> You have brought to my attention again the difficulty of the church
>> nearby
>> that some people are confusing with the Catholic Church. It is Our Lady
>> of
>> the Rosary, 333 58th Street. It is clear that this church is not a
> Catholic
>> Church but belongs to the Lefebre movement. No church is considered to
>> be
> a
>> truly Catholic Church unless it recognizes the Holy Father as the head
>> of
>> the Church and the local bishop appointed by him. Clearly the small
>> church
>> mentioned above does not fulfull the requirement to be considered a
> Catholic
>> Church. Catholics may not go there to fulfill their Sunday obligation
>> for
>> Mass.
>>
>> There are several other schismatic churches in the area as well. If they
>> don't recognize the Pope and Bishop, they are not Catholic and good
>> Catholics should clearly not be involved with them in any way.
>>
>> I hope that this additional clarification helps and that you can inform
> your
>> parishioners so that there will be no misunderstanding.
>>
>> Sincerely yours in the Risen Lord,
>>
>>
>>
>> Most Rev. Michael J. Sheehan
>> Archbishop of Santa Fe
>>
>>
> , >
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "The Rev GDVWiebe SSC.,PhD" <gdvw@...>
>> To: <faithandlife@...>
>> Cc: <JADAgency@...>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:36 PM
>> Subject: [FaithandLife] Caring for all the Churches (Sort Of)
>>
>>
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>> ,,,,,It
>> > will be,interesting to see what the final fallout,over +Nova
>> > Hamshiriensis is but I suspect Protestantism (everyone his own God
>> just
>> > don't rock the boat) will win again. ...Blessings. GDVW+
>> >
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