> Brothers: > By some lights I might be warped but both I and one of my oldest friends (also a Traditionalist priest) watch the Vicar of Dibley and are not surprised at the slightest that she would have some influence on voting to give mitres to the women. Of course in Dibley there are no real problems that cannot be solved. Everyone comes to 'luv' the Vicar and she of course would get AAA+++ in Clinical Pastoral Education but FFF---in theology! Apparently Dean Inge's maxim is coming true: The Church that marries the zeitgeist will soon be a wido (or words to that effect). Television humour is one thing (at least they never have her conducting a service as such) but its not hurmour when what it portrays is all too true. Having met female playing at priest in the UK (a real experience) I can testify that she was all too Dibley in her demeanour. AAAAAGGGGHHH! GDVW+ > Joy Carroll and Dawn French are not household names in the U.S. > Probably only clerics with a warped sense of humor would go looking for > a tv program based on the life of Joy Carrol that can only be found on > Public Television (at least in Cincinnati.) > > I don't watch tv sitcoms much, but generally speaking, I like the > British sitcoms that air on Public TV. It was there that I came across > Dawn French portraying Joy Carroll as the Vicar of Dibley. Dawn French > problably is more popular in the UK than any cleric including the > Archbishop of Canterbury, and draws more viewers than all who attend > church on any given Sunday. Hence her influence (in the person of Joy > Carrol the real life female cleric) on the vote should not be > underestimated. > > Charles > ---------------------------------- > from http://www.scotland.anglican.org/ > > > Vicar of Dibley joins woman bishop debate > > 12 June 02 > > The woman who inspired the Vicar of Dibley today urged the Scottish > Episcopal Church to open the door to women bishops in an historic vote > on Friday. > > Joy Carroll was one of the first women to be ordained as a priest in the > UK and became the model for Dawn French's character in the hit TV > sitcom. > > The intervention from the pioneering priest comes just ahead of a key > vote on whether to allow women bishops at the church's General Synod, > which runs from tomorrow (Thursday, June 13) to Saturday, June 15. > > Ms Carroll, one of the most prominent women clerics in the Anglican > Church world-wide, said: "It's an incredibly exciting vote. > > "There was a lot of fear and uncertainty before the church allowed woman > priests. All I can say is that many people were converted when they > actually saw a woman priest in action, carrying out her role. > > "I am lucky enough to work under a woman who is an assistant bishop in > Washington DC, Jane Dixon. She does a really, really good job with great > dignity." > > Ms Carroll recently moved from the UK to work as a priest in the > Episcopal Church in the USA. The US Church, the Scottish Episcopal > Church and the Church of England, are all members of the same "Anglican" > family of churches. > > At the moment, only the Anglican churches in the USA and New Zealand > have employed women as bishops. The Anglican Church in Ireland has voted > to allow women bishops but has yet to appoint one. > > After Scotland, Ms Carroll hopes to kick-start the debate over women > bishops in the Church of England. She is planning to lay out her > arguments in her book "Beneath the Cassock: The Real-life Vicar of > Dibley", due out in August. The book also describes how she was spotted > by Richard Curtis (of Four Weddings and a Funeral fame) and chosen as > the model for his TV series. Ms Carroll worked closely with Dawn French, > who has written the forward for the book. > > Ms Carroll said she had no personal ambition to become a Bishop. "I > can't imagine going down that road right now. If you're called, you're > called. But I don't have any particular ambition in that direction." > > This year's General Synod will hear the first reading of a new church > law that would enable women bishops. If the law, or "canon", is passed, > it will go out for further debate in the seven regions or "dioceses" of > the Scottish Episcopal Church. > > The canon would then come back for a second reading at next year's > General Synod, where it would need to be supported by two thirds of > Synod members before it becomes law. > > If the Canon is passed next year, the upcoming retiral of the church's > Bishop of Argyll & the Isles, would mean that, in theory, a woman could > become a bishop in the SEC as early as 2004. That could give Scotland > the first female bishop in the UK. > > The Most Rev Bruce Cameron, Primus or head of the Scottish Episcopal > Church, today said that it was important that the church stuck closely > to its procedures in reaching a decision. > > But he said he would propose the first reading of the canon at around > 10.45am on Friday. "I do so because I believe this Church on the whole > discerns it to be the right time to do it. I am also confident that we > can take this decision and live effectively and sensitively with our > differences of view. " > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to > <faithandlife-unsubscribe@...> ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using FREE Catholic Online Webmail. Please tell your family, friends and children about COL Webmail! http://webmail.catholic.org/