> Fr Scott: Amen. If demography continues its course soon the 1st world Anglicans (sort of) will be a footnote to the whole Communion. What will Spongites do when their money is no longer needed-or desired!?! GDVW+> Fr. Wiebe+ > > Glad to know that I'm not the only one with a perverse sense of humor. > > Our brothers from other parts of the Anglican Communion don't find the > scenario at all humorous. The 2/3rd's world is finding its voice and > they will not, at least in this genration, follow the American popular > culture as have Canada, Scotland, and the U.K. > > Charles+ > >>From: <gdvw@...> >>Reply-To: faithandlife@... >>To: <faithandlife@...> >>Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] Vicar of Dibley wins woman bishop debate in >> Scottish Synod >>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:38:16 -0000 (UTC) >> >> > Brothers: >> > By some lights I might be warped but both I and one of my oldest >> friends >>(also a Traditionalist priest) watch the Vicar of Dibley and are not >> surprised at the slightest that she would have some influence on voting >> to give mitres to the women. Of course in Dibley there are no real >> problems that cannot be solved. Everyone comes to 'luv' the Vicar and >> she of course would get AAA+++ in Clinical Pastoral Education but >> FFF---in theology! Apparently Dean Inge's maxim is coming true: The >> Church that marries the zeitgeist will soon be a wido (or words to that >> effect). Television humour is one thing (at least they never have her >> conducting a service as such) but its not hurmour when what it portrays >> is all too true. Having met female playing at priest in the UK (a real >> experience) I can testify that she was all too Dibley in her demeanour. >> AAAAAGGGGHHH! GDVW+ >> > Joy Carroll and Dawn French are not household names in the U.S. >> Probably only clerics with a warped sense of humor would go looking >> for a tv program based on the life of Joy Carrol that can only be >> found on Public Television (at least in Cincinnati.) >> > >> > I don't watch tv sitcoms much, but generally speaking, I like the >> British sitcoms that air on Public TV. It was there that I came >> across Dawn French portraying Joy Carroll as the Vicar of Dibley. >> Dawn French problably is more popular in the UK than any cleric >> including the Archbishop of Canterbury, and draws more viewers than >> all who attend church on any given Sunday. Hence her influence (in >> the person of Joy Carrol the real life female cleric) on the vote >> should not be >> > underestimated. >> > >> > Charles >> > ---------------------------------- >> > from http://www.scotland.anglican.org/ >> > >> > >> > Vicar of Dibley joins woman bishop debate >> > >> > 12 June 02 >> > >> > The woman who inspired the Vicar of Dibley today urged the Scottish >> Episcopal Church to open the door to women bishops in an historic >> vote on Friday. >> > >> > Joy Carroll was one of the first women to be ordained as a priest in >> the UK and became the model for Dawn French's character in the hit >> TV sitcom. >> > >> > The intervention from the pioneering priest comes just ahead of a >> key vote on whether to allow women bishops at the church's General >> Synod, which runs from tomorrow (Thursday, June 13) to Saturday, >> June 15. >> > >> > Ms Carroll, one of the most prominent women clerics in the Anglican >> Church world-wide, said: "It's an incredibly exciting vote. >> > >> > "There was a lot of fear and uncertainty before the church allowed >> woman priests. All I can say is that many people were converted when >> they actually saw a woman priest in action, carrying out her role. >> > >> > "I am lucky enough to work under a woman who is an assistant bishop >> in Washington DC, Jane Dixon. She does a really, really good job >> with great dignity." >> > >> > Ms Carroll recently moved from the UK to work as a priest in the >> Episcopal Church in the USA. The US Church, the Scottish Episcopal >> Church and the Church of England, are all members of the same >> "Anglican" family of churches. >> > >> > At the moment, only the Anglican churches in the USA and New Zealand >> have employed women as bishops. The Anglican Church in Ireland has >> voted to allow women bishops but has yet to appoint one. >> > >> > After Scotland, Ms Carroll hopes to kick-start the debate over women >> bishops in the Church of England. She is planning to lay out her >> arguments in her book "Beneath the Cassock: The Real-life Vicar of >> Dibley", due out in August. The book also describes how she was >> spotted by Richard Curtis (of Four Weddings and a Funeral fame) and >> chosen as the model for his TV series. Ms Carroll worked closely >> with Dawn French, who has written the forward for the book. >> > >> > Ms Carroll said she had no personal ambition to become a Bishop. "I >> can't imagine going down that road right now. If you're called, >> you're called. But I don't have any particular ambition in that >> direction." >> > >> > This year's General Synod will hear the first reading of a new >> church law that would enable women bishops. If the law, or "canon", >> is passed, it will go out for further debate in the seven regions or >> "dioceses" of the Scottish Episcopal Church. >> > >> > The canon would then come back for a second reading at next year's >> General Synod, where it would need to be supported by two thirds of >> Synod members before it becomes law. >> > >> > If the Canon is passed next year, the upcoming retiral of the >> church's Bishop of Argyll & the Isles, would mean that, in theory, a >> woman could become a bishop in the SEC as early as 2004. That could >> give Scotland the first female bishop in the UK. >> > >> > The Most Rev Bruce Cameron, Primus or head of the Scottish Episcopal >> Church, today said that it was important that the church stuck >> closely to its procedures in reaching a decision. >> > >> > But he said he would propose the first reading of the canon at >> around 10.45am on Friday. "I do so because I believe this Church on >> the whole discerns it to be the right time to do it. I am also >> confident that we can take this decision and live effectively and >> sensitively with our differences of view. 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