Ooops, sorry John+.  I see that Erich+ has already gotten to you and
that you've repented, recanted, and corrected your ways!  And who said
the German branch of the Inquisition is dead!!!

MLW+

-----Original Message-----
From: John Longcamp [mailto:jlongcam@...] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:50 PM
To: faithandlife@...
Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] MURPHY-O'CONNORS LAW

Erich+

Indeed we do!   And I am remiss in not making clear with "Archbishop of
CANTERBURY"

As I wrote my rant, and the one that followed, I kept thinking of him
and
our other good leaders.  The problem is that for most of the world they
are
invisible.  Fortunately, God can and does use them and their work, done
almost entirely behind the scenes, in powerful ways.  But the problem
remains that the prominent Anglican leaders are inferior and detrimental
to
the Anglican image, and thereby to our work.

Thanks for the positive reminder!

John+

----- Original Message -----
From: <stmary@...>
To: <faithandlife@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] MURPHY-O'CONNORS LAW


> John+
>
> We do have an Archbishop of whom we can be proud of, etc.
>
> +Walter Grundorf!
>
> Erich+
>
> Quoting John Longcamp <jlongcam@...>:
>
> > Sorry, this has nothing to do with whether I like the man.  I have
yet
to
> > see any sincerity in him.  He can say the right words when he
chooses,
but
> > we know from his own statements that he does not hold to the entire
faith
> > once delivered to the saints.  He may have said nothing recently to
support
> > a change in theology, but I see no evidence that he has change his
own
> > beliefs.  Jesus said, "Ye must be born again," not, "conform your
outward
> > appearance so that people with think you are on my side."
> >
> > We need an archbishop for whom we don't have to make excuses and
appologies.
> > He had no "right" to the office.  If is a  privilege and burden that
should
> > have been bestowed on the man of God's choosing, not a man chosen
for
> > political purposes--and by the Prime Minister.
> >
> > Williams may be brilliant, experienced, etc., but a man of God he
obviously
> > is not!  For all their faults, the RCs seem to be finding spiritual
giants
> > lately.  ++Williams by comparison is embarrassingly pathetic.
> >
> > John+
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Clavier+ <anglican@...>
> > To: <faithandlife@...>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FaithandLife] MURPHY-O'CONNORS LAW
> >
> >
> > > John+,
> > >
> > > Now, be fair to the man.  One may not like +Williams, but since
becoming
> > the
> > > archbishop he has said nothing to support a change in theology
and, in
> > point
> > > of fact, has taken quite a lot of heat from the revisionists for
his
> > > statements and willingness to work with the Conservatives.  And
his
book
> > on
> > > Easter is an enormously powerful discussion of the first Easter.
It
> > should
> > > further be noted that Cormac Murphy-O'Connors and he have become
very
good
> > > friends.  Certainly, I don't agree with +Williams on everything,
but I
> > > respect him, his intellect, and his spiritual depth enormously.
> > >
> > > Mark+
> > >
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