Mike+, This Sunday I'll finish up a 3-part sermon series that began with my tackling the whole wheat and tares parable in conjunction with Romans 8. I end up tying it all to the list in Galatians of the qualities of redeemed human nature (love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control). As I was working on it, I found myself beginning to tell people that these are the things they should aim for. Pelagius was rearing his Welsh head. I backed up and talked about their being fruits of the Spirit that can only come to us through prayer, worship, and the sacraments. Amazing the response I got from people. They'd never been taught anything like that before. Mark+