> Charles et.al: I think ++Carey fails Anglicanism 101-miserably!
Blessingsa GDVW+
Brothers:
>
> Below is an interview involving ++Carey. Note his line on the
> "genius of the Anglican Communion."
>
> In the period 1965-1969 when I was earnestly trying to justify aligning
> with ECUSA, I would expressed what I hoped the "genius of the Anglican
> Communion" to be in very different terms.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Charles
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Abp. Carey Interview ....
> http://cbc.ca/national/transcripts/transcript#24F3D7-25
>
> Host: PETER MANSBRIDGE
>
> Date: 021023
>
> Time: 22:00:00 ET - 22:30:00 ET
>
> CBC-TVTHE NATIONAL
>
> SMITH: As Archbishop of Canterbury Carey has often provoked heated
>
> talk...
>
> CAREY: God calls us to take the risk of faith.
>
> SMITH: He advocated the ordination of women and is credited with
>
> shepherding his church through a difficult and harsh debate. Now the
>
> issue of same sex partnerships is still in dissention and Vancouver is
>
> at the centre of the debate.
>
> BISHOP MICHAEL INGHAM (Vancouver Anglican Minister): Let us maintain
>
> charity towards all members of the household of God.
>
> SMITH: Bishop Michael Ingham and his diocese have taken steps towards
>
> blessing same sex unions, a move Carey strongly opposes. Why did you
>
> feel you had to speak out? Why did you feel you had to intervene?
>
> CAREY: Well because as Archbishop of Canterbury, I'm known as one of the
>
> instruments of unity within the Anglican Communion. In other words, to
>
> be an Anglican is to be in communion with the See of Canterbury, to have
>
> some organic link with historic basis from which the church grew. And so
>
> part of my concern and part of my job over the last eleven and a half
>
> years is to hold the unity of the body. A bit like a parent who wants to
>
> try to draw together, and so I regard myself as one of the parents along
>
> with all the other primates and Archbishops of the Anglican community.
>
> SMITH: I would feel them bristling there...
>
> (LAUGHTER)
>
> SMITH: ...at the notion of a parent, wouldn't they? I mean...
>
> CAREY: No, I think there's a wonderful image of family life you see. And
>
> the sense in which the analogy breaks down because I'm talking about a
>
> family in which we are all parents and all children at the one and the
>
> same time in which we have a responsibility for one another. And
>
> collegiality. And so my concern what happens in one small diocese on
>
> the other side of Canada will impact in Uganda, in Sudan, in Pakistan
>
> and elsewhere and you see we've got to therefore talk together. It is
>
> the religious parallel of what you were asking me earlier.
>
> SMITH: I mean doesn't progress have to come from that kind of
>
> independent action even within a religious community and I know that the
>
> church has prided itself to a certain degree on the independence of
>
> this.
>
> CAREY: But how do we know if it's progress and not regression? How do we
>
> know that? We only know that as we seek consensus and we only seek
>
> consensus by talking to one another.
>
> SMITH: So how did you know that ordination of women was progress?
>
> CAREY: Because I would say we talked about it and we shared together as
>
> a community. I personally passionately committed to ordination of women
>
> but we did so because there was a progression of development and
>
> encouragement and communion. What I'm not seeing is that kind of
>
> parallel in the case of same sex union.
>
> SMITH: So are you suggesting that in the end, the church may bless same
>
> sex unions. You just want them to take a slower path to get there.
>
> CAREY: I really don't know. I don't know what the outcome. My views are
>
> very clear. I do not regard this outright. I believe that you can only
>
> look at the issue of sexuality from what the bible gives in terms of
>
> marriage. That is the prism through which we have to look at the whole
>
> issue of sexuality. What I'm not saying is that I'm not saying the
>
> discussion is wrong. Slow it down. Let's carry on talking. We may not
>
> agree but the genius of the Anglican Communion is that we know how to
>
> internalize disagreement. What we don't want to do is for people to rush
>
> away to make decisions that are going to upset the rest of us.
>
> SMITH: In preparing for this interview, I read a comment that you made
>
> about being a minister. And you talked about how you entered into the
>
> loneliness of someone else's life and how it was a huge privilege when
>
> you talk to people. I couldn't help but wonder when I read that if as
>
> you leave this job now, if perhaps you aren't yearning for a little
>
> loneliness of your own in a certain fashion.
>
> (LAUGHTER)
>
> CAREY: I'm certainly looking forward to a slowing down of activity of
>
> being able to reflect and enjoy nature and my wife's company and read a
>
> few more books, that kind of thing. But you're absolutely right. There
>
> is a loneliness. Any sort of minister will know about that because as
>
> other people give their confidences to you which you have to hold, and
>
> you actually accept their pain as well, it leaves its indelible imprint
>
> upon your life and I've grown not only my respect of human nature of his
>
> weakness as well. I also leave with, you know, the church has still got
>
> a lot of growing up to do and that goes back to the image of the elderly
>
> woman and I believe, you know, under God the church can get
>
> progressively younger. More virile in its faith and life, more open to
>
> new possibilities while at the same time holding on to the truth that's
>
> being given.
>
> End
>
>
>
>
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