Y'all, I think we need also to agree about what exactly we're doing in our dialogue. Each of us can have theological objections to the other until we're blue in the face. That won't change the fact that both the General Council of the REC and the Provincial Synod of the APA have ratified by vote the Joint Statement on Anglican Belief and Practice, a document whose final wording involved a careful parsing by clergy from the APA and REC, as well as all the REC bishops. Note, it contains a specific section on the role played by the 39 Articles. That document fulfilled the first stage of our unity scheme by showing that there were no substantive theological disagreements preventing our two churches from merging. This doesn't mean we can't discuss our disagreements. What it does mean is that presumably theological problems were aired in either church, that the authorized bodies voted, and that the majority in both churches agreed to the statement. That statement takes into consideration the very differences evidenced recently on this list...though perhaps with less rancor and heat. Finally, as the chairman of the APA's Ecumenical Committee and as one intimately involved in composition of the Statement, let me make it clear that there are NO hidden agendas. Every meeting between our two churches of which I have been part have been open, friendly, and an all around delight. There has been an eagerness among these participants to get past old gripes, put behind us the 19th century, and move on in our Gospel work. Frankly, at the same time there has been throughout an anxiety that our dialogue would be shipwrecked by small-mindedness. To avoid that, we've gone the extra league to avoid buzz words, and have removed from the process a defininte time frame in which to merge. Look, all of us can take the defensive route and come up with any number of reasons why our two churches shouldn't merge. Frankly, I think a lot of traditional Anglicans have an excrutiating time differentiating between essentials and non-essentials. But, as I've said before, if our devotion to the Trinity, the Joint Statement, the APA's Solemn Declaration, the REC's Constitution, the Lambeth Quadrilateral, our respective Prayer Books, the evident godliness of our bishops, and our mutual respect for our Anglican heritage, aren't sufficient cause for our merger then, I think, we have to admit that deep down we don't really care about the divisions in Christ's Church nor Jesus' prayer in John 17. Mark+