Since I'm the one that started this, let me just say that my appeal had nothing to do with theological discussion. It did, though, have everything to do with name calling and being contentiousness sake. And it really makes no difference if it comes from the APA or REC sides of the house. +++++ MLW+ Has a good point. We should be able to discuss heavy issues without looking to offend or to be offended. We should also be able to discuss issues without having 100 posts about how we discuss issues. :-) In Him; Jerry