I was shocked and dismayed (*smile*) to have seen something looking funny when one of my apps was running on an iMac 333. The letters tops appeared squared off. I checked to see what font was being used and had to resort to amazement...just plain old Geneva. I checked my code and there was no tricky stuff there...just TEXT calls using 0's to select plain text...e.g. TEXT gMyFont%,localSize,0,0 Clue me in...I don't have a iMac or 8.5, so I am clueless...even more than usual. George