Things seem kind of slow, so I would like to put something up for discussion. I've been using FBII for several years now and I usually find that I can get it to do just about anything I set my mind to. Sometimes it takes a day or two to figure something out, but the one thing that I have never been able to use (and I don't want to use FB^3 with the same limitation) is the Debugger. I decided to try it again a few days ago, thinking that perhaps, since I am enough more knowledgeable than I was when I first started with FB, I overlooked something. I'm still of that frame of mind, since I could STILL not get it to work for me. I get the Debugger up and am able to go in a set break points and I understand what everything is and, supposedly, how to use the various features - although some of them are a bit much. So I push the "hide" button and all of the Debugger's windows are hidden and "My Programs Menus" are available; but none of the hierarchical menus show themselves - and I do use a fair number of them. Further, the program does not run as it does when I build it and then double click on the Program's Icon. Mind you, this is a program that works "almost" perfectly; I just want to step through the source code in a couple of spots to determine why a couple of things happen when I think they shouldn't. Additionally, how can you break into the Debugger when you want to check out your program as it opens from one of its Finder Documents. I have done all of my debugging with calls to Debugstr in MacsBug and this just isn't going to cut it anymore. I don't want/need any detailed descriptions. Just a couple of clues. Do your hierarchical menus show? Can you drop into the debugger from a Finder Document? Do your programs RUN right from the beginning? Am I a total DUNCE? Ooops! Better not answer that one - I already know the answer. TIA, Joe Wilkins