Ross said: >So, I guess all I can say is, "Buy both!" I will say that all of the >other Mac BASICs I've seen are _pretenders_; only OB and FB3 are the real >thing. That's exactly what I'm gonna do!!!! I'm lucky enough to be able to beta test OB (you can sign up at www.redplanetsw.com), and I like what I see. And I really can't wait until FB^3 is released. The OB and FB relationship sort of reminds me of the old saying a father would hear when his daughter is getting married..... "You're not losing a daughter -- you're gaining a son". The interesting thing is, now "Inside Basic" would have two excellent environments to write about. The actions Ross took when he thought Zedcor would bury FB may prove to further expand the Mac Basic programmers numbers. I think this is a good thing for all of us. Remember competition is good -- and as far as software is concerned, support is essential. Scott P.S. It's really good to hear from you again, Ross!!!