Supposed you've use the PICTURE ON, did some quickdraw commands, then PICTURE OFF. Now you have a handle to the picture but its all in quickdraw. It would be nice if you could then "flatten" it so its only a bit map and then save the bitmap as a PICT file or copy it to the clipboard. But just what does one do to "flatten" a PICT to a bitmap? And then how to save or copy as a PICT again? Nudges and shoves welcome. Mel Patrick - theWabbitGuy - mel@... http://www.intergate.bc.ca/business/mel