Hi gang: For all those people doing pings and the like, you might want to look at the "WhatRoute" application. It's a freeware program that does some pretty neat things. You can download your copy at: <<http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~bryanc/> I use it to track SPAM and other such net-works. It should give you the rout that you take to get to Staz's site. That may shed some light as to why some of you get there and others can't. Just remember that the only reason that you're here is that you're not all there. tedd _______________________________________________________ http://sperling.com/