>>either. >>as long as it's cheap. :+) >What aboout Staz's draw program included with FutureBASIC II? Hey, forget that! Get FuturePaint from Staz's web site. It's a (relatively) new release. Everybody on the list should go to Staz's site and get it. It is the bees-knees. (I don't think the (FB^3) source code for this paint prog is not available at the moment) Of course if that's too complicated there's "MacDoodle" :-) Andy P