larry, heather, and all, with your drop-shells and applets, you've put us onto a route that i've wanted to pursue in taking some of my code to an open source model. i've already registered the creater code with apple: it's "tool", in upper-case rather than lower, of course, 'cause apple reserves all the good all-lower codes for itself... more later, but i want to encourage your efforts instantly... -bowerbird