Way to go Lazlo...and well said! BTW, I hope I have your name right. It's kind of confusing: Lazlo, John, Art--just one of those things that make life interesting, I guess. Also, I don't know if you get Seinfeld on TV down under, but ArtVandals sounds suspiciously close to Art Vandalay... ____________ wave (Toronto, Canada) Much better at "OOPS!" programming than OOP programming.