Dear B'bird, no knowledge, nothing to win... (concerning my abilities) "...but, nonetheless, it's like this ethical purity thing, having preached the beauty of small is better, there _is_ a difference -- a _big_ difference -- to me between a 200k program and a 500k one, it's like twice as big..." I fully agree with you, but my solution for this means a hard way to go. You know my approach and my desire to keep applications very small. As it was mentioned recently, most probable by Jamin, you may create DCODs from your FBII code and call them from FB^3. OK, this sounds suboptimum but... May be you could tailor a text runtime that is samller and only contains your favorite routines. You may also comment out include file calls from the StdRuntime that you don't access, but be careful the StdRuntime may need them and if you like to change this, then you might start working on a big project that isn't really yours! Best, Herbie ************************************************* H.Glu@...