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From: Peter A Boyle <pboyle@...>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:01:12 -0500
on 15/03/02 16:38, Dianne and Bryan at bremner@... wrote:

> Craig said:
> 
>>> I do a lot of work with rebar. What kind of steel are you involved with?
>> 
>> Staz, to the rest of us, rebar is NOT defined as going to the bar more than
>> once a day! :-)
>> 
>>> Ah, structural. if you ever need the theory behind a good optimum shearing
>>> program let me know.
>> 
>> As for shearing... It is a structural analysis of an object. Pressure is
>> put on a test piece to find it's failure point. All components used in
>> structural support has to be tested to insure suitability for each
>> construction application.
>> 
> 
> Ok, this should go to the X-FB list but since Staz started it!
> 
> I am building a retirement home - for me and my wife, not a business.
> Anyway, our construction technique is a monolithic dome - we are building a
> partial torus dome.  Since a monolithic dome is not standard stick
> construction we needed a complete engineering analysis.  Also since we are
> building the first torus monolithic dome no engineer had ever done this
> analysis.  The first three engineers we went to - including a retired
> Engineering Professor - said, Uh, well, we can probably, lets see now,
> well, how about a complete finite element analysis?  We can probably get a
> good start on this for about $10,000 and it shouldn't take more than about
> 6 months.
> 
> As you can probably guess, this was not an option that I particularly
> liked.  The fourth engineer came up with some "simplifying" assumptions
> which only cost about $3,500 for the engineer and about $5,000 for
> additional cement and rebar.  And he got it done in about 3 weeks instead
> of 6 months.  Better solution but have you ever hand bent 5/8" rebar on 6"
> centers for the majority of a house, not my idea of a fun workout.
> 
> Anyway, after we get the house done I might want to try my hand at a finite
> element analysis of a cement torus with rebar.  This will be a while, still
> need to shoot the cement and do all the inside work, walls, floors, simple
> stuff.  Any suggestions, including the most obvious which probably is "You
> are out of your mind!" welcome.  No, I am not an engineer, not a bad
> scientific programmer but most of that was statistical analysis.  I hope to
> have a web site up with photos of the construction soon.  My current ISP
> doesn't have web access so it is a bit of a pain.
> 
> OK, I'll shut up, suggestions either X-FB or direct to me.  Thanks   Bye
> 
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> Dianne and Bryan Bremner
> Home address: mailto:bremner@...
> Web page:  http://www.imbris.net/~bremner
> 
> 
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Why would anyone pick Concrete (Which should be kept underground where it
belongs) when simply recyclable steel is available? I have a geodesic dome
I built in the 70's. The analysis and construction was fairly simple, all I
can say is "Think Steel"
Peter (the third one)